Cooley's take on the Panthers game

[FRPLG]

Part of me wonders if our lack luster performance was due in part to our preseason being so long. When Cooley admits that he hasn't looked forward to practice for weeks its a clue that maybe we just didn't show up. I guess I am hoping that is the case. The alternative is that we just suck.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Part of me wonders if our lack luster performance was due in part to our preseason being so long. When Cooley admits that he hasn't looked forward to practice for weeks its a clue that maybe we just didn't show up. I guess I am hoping that is the case. The alternative is that we just suck.

They very well could be burned out a bit.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

They very well could be burned out a bit.

True that, Zorn did run a tough camp with far more two-a-days than Gibbs had. Plus it started early.

Gut check time.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

True that, Zorn did run a tough camp with far more two-a-days than Gibbs had. Plus it started early.

Gut check time.

Or maybe it was a case of a team getting too cocky. Zorn said they had one of their best practices leading up to the game. Or maybe it was just a case of a team coming out flat for whatever reason and getting their butts kicked. Who knows really. I'm sure Zorn is searching for the same answer.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Or maybe it was a case of a team getting too cocky. Zorn said they had one of their best practices leading up to the game. Or maybe it was just a case of a team coming out flat for whatever reason and getting their butts kicked. Who knows really. I'm sure Zorn is searching for the same answer.

All the interviews I saw throughout camp, all the players and coaches seemed really loose and relaxed. Maybe a little too much. It's a delicate balancing act. Gibbs was very terse and ran a tight ship, and you rarely saw anything but very serious attitudes from the players and coaches (save for Clinton's characters). I think the Carolina game was a good smack in the face. And groin. And stomach... Yeah, we got punked.

But it was a good wake up for us, and I think with the quality of our locker room chemistry and veteran leadership, we'll re-focus and turn it into a positive. I think we come out hungry and crisp in New York next week. They're reeling with the Osi injury, especially with Strahan snubbing them. And the way Peppers used Samuels last weekend, I'm glad Osi won't be in there.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

All the interviews I saw throughout camp, all the players and coaches seemed really loose and relaxed. Maybe a little too much. It's a delicate balancing act. Gibbs was very terse and ran a tight ship, and you rarely saw anything but very serious attitudes from the players and coaches (save for Clinton's characters). I think the Carolina game was a good smack in the face. And groin. And stomach... Yeah, we got punked.

But it was a good wake up for us, and I think with the quality of our locker room chemistry and veteran leadership, we'll re-focus and turn it into a positive. I think we come out hungry and crisp in New York next week. They're reeling with the Osi injury, especially with Strahan snubbing them. And the way Peppers used Samuels last weekend, I'm glad Osi won't be in there.

I'm not a fan of playing the Giants when he have them "right where we want them"

Four years ago we had them right where we wanted them when they had internal strife of Coughlin's "If you're on time, you're late" meeting rule...and we lost

Three years ago we had them right where we wanted them when they were reeling over the death of owner Wellington Mara...and we lost

Last year we had them right where we wanted them when they got destroyed in the first two games of the season and the defense couldn't stop anyone...and we lost

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not a fan of playing the Giants when he have them "right where we want them"

Four years ago we had them right where we wanted them when they had internal strife of Coughlin's "If you're on time, you're late" meeting rule...and we lost

Three years ago we had them right where we wanted them when they were reeling over the death of owner Wellington Mara...and we lost

Last year we had them right where we wanted them when they got destroyed in the first two games of the season and the defense couldn't stop anyone...and we lost

That brings up a good point. Look at the condition of the Skins after Sean's death last year and the team results at season end. AND, if I recall correctly, a couple of those Giant losses were pretty good ass-kickin's

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not a fan of playing the Giants when he have them "right where we want them"

Four years ago we had them right where we wanted them when they had internal strife of Coughlin's "If you're on time, you're late" meeting rule...and we lost

Three years ago we had them right where we wanted them when they were reeling over the death of owner Wellington Mara...and we lost

Last year we had them right where we wanted them when they got destroyed in the first two games of the season and the defense couldn't stop anyone...and we lost

Good points. Although I don't think we have them right where we want them. Playing the Super Bowl champs on the road, in New York no less, on the NFL opening night with a rookie head coach is NOT having someone right where you want them.

But, I do think they've had a rough offseason, lost some key guys, now Osi... When looking at this game, I'd say we have a better chance than I would have estimated 6 months ago. That being said, I'd say they have a better chance for a W than we do next Thursday.

I don't seem to remember them reeling when Wellington Mara died. They had a nice tribute and the players looked up to him, but he was almost 90 and had been sick for a while, so they knew it was coming. Not to downplay how sad it was, but it wasn't a sudden shocker like Sean's murder. I remember when the national anthem was playing they showed the faces of the Giants players on the sideline, and I knew right then we were gonna lose that game. The focus and determination was plain as day.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Part of me wonders if our lack luster performance was due in part to our preseason being so long. When Cooley admits that he hasn't looked forward to practice for weeks its a clue that maybe we just didn't show up. I guess I am hoping that is the case. The alternative is that we just suck.

man they better show up for that giants game!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Part of me wonders if our lack luster performance was due in part to our preseason being so long. When Cooley admits that he hasn't looked forward to practice for weeks its a clue that maybe we just didn't show up. I guess I am hoping that is the case. The alternative is that we just suck.

While I did not read that CC admitted that he has not looked foward to practice in some weeks it may account for the fact that he has a wooping two catches in three preseason games. These guys get paid very well and even though I really like CC those kind of comments should never be made in public. Add to the fact the way this team played Saturday night maybe other players have the same attitude. What do they think they can just read their pplay book and have down a new system or maybe they needed the extra time and effort to get down the plays.

Now that I think about what Colley said about practice we also have Portis saying the same thing about playing preason games. I hope this is not the attititude of other players when they finally get their big pay day. I doupt Cooley would have said that before he got his new contract.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Part of me wonders if our lack luster performance was due in part to our preseason being so long. When Cooley admits that he hasn't looked forward to practice for weeks its a clue that maybe we just didn't show up. I guess I am hoping that is the case. The alternative is that we just suck.

It could also be that the Panthers were the first good team we have faced and you are only as good as the teams you play. The Jets and Bills do not scare anyone. I do not care if Farve is the QB, the Jets and Bills will not be winning the 2008 Superbowl. THe colts were with out thier MVP QB and several starters including Defensive MVP's Bob Sander and Dwight Freenney.
Panthers are a good team now with their new additons and the return to health of some of their players. We do not measure up yet to the elite teams in the NFL. Our lines are old and not very good. You win up front. We draft WR's and Te's.