Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

[hooskins]

I am sure Republicans are pissed off by the "Change" signs. Just because one votes Republican doesn't mean he/she doesn't want positive change from the last administration.

[saden1]

What does country first mean?

[hooskins]

Basically they are saying Dems are being to divisive and "country first" is just a fluffy term no one is really opposed to.

Another thing is the Republicans are now trying to market themselves as a party for all, With a female candidate to get hildog votes and liberman(along with others) focusing on how McCain works with both parties.

Interesting tactic.

[saden1]

Fluffy term you say? You mean like "Time Horizon?"

I found the whole RNC pretty sad, in a way I felt bad for them much like you would for a wounded animal. Of course, like a wounded bear, they're the sort of wounded animal you don't want to help because chances are good that they'd viciously rip your head off with one swipe.

How many people did they have in there? Couldn't have been more than 1000 people in there.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by firstdown

First off even if congress and the president did pass a law making abortion illegal the Supreme Court would have the final say and I don't see them over turning their prior decission. As far as SS is concerned all you have to do is look at Galviston (spelling) Texas private system to see how much better it performs over the current broken system.

Even Congress has their own seperate retirment plain which is not in the current SS plain that they force us into.

The supreme court can't overturn constitutional amendments.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Okay, someone please explain it to me. Because I've honestly tried to not read too much into it.

Judge them not on what they say but on what they do.

The speeches and rhetoric are just fluff. "Change we can believe in" and "Country first" don't mean anything.

How are you going to balance the budget? What programs are important to you? How will you handle Russia? What makes you believe you are right on Iraq? How do you expect to reduce the cost of healthcare AND provide coverage for all Americans?

If they're not giving answers to the above types of probing questions, what they say doesn't amount to a hill of beans. So ignore it, and judge them on their actions, their record, and their plans.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

Fluffy term you say? You mean like "Time Horizon?"

I found the whole RNC pretty sad, in a way I felt bad for them much like you would for a wounded animal. Of course, like a wounded bear, they're the sort of wounded animal you don't want to help because chances are good that they'd viciously rip your head off with one swipe.

How many people did they have in there? Couldn't have been more than 1000 people in there.

It was nowhere near as cool as the coronation of BHO in Obamaopolis.

The conventions don't mean a whole lot, the real fun begins with the live debates.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Judge them not on what they say but on what they do.

The speeches and rhetoric are just fluff. "Change we can believe in" and "Country first" don't mean anything.

How are you going to balance the budget? What programs are important to you? How will you handle Russia? What makes you believe you are right on Iraq? How do you expect to reduce the cost of healthcare AND provide coverage for all Americans?

If they're not giving answers to the above types of probing questions, what they say doesn't amount to a hill of beans. So ignore it, and judge them on their actions, their record, and their plans.

Wait a minute. I thought if you said pretty words in super-cool sounding way you were the better candidate? Catchy phrases attract my attention a lot easier than taking on a "what have you done for me lately?" standpoint. Can you guess who I'm voting for?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

It was nowhere near as cool as the coronation of BHO in Obamaopolis.

The conventions don't mean a whole lot, the real fun begins with the live debates.

I must admit Obama's coronation was spectacular, the only thing missing was the "Mission Accomplished" banner.

I'm looking forward to the debates.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by saden1

What does country first mean?

I think it had a lot to do with former Democratic VP candidate Joe Liebermann crossing party lines on Tuesday and supporting McCain in his keynote speech, stating that he supports McCain because "country matters more than party."

It's about McCain's theme of being a maverick, crossing party lines, etc.

At least that's the impression I got.

[dmek25]

he only crossed party lines because he thought he couldn't get elected as a democrat. what a joke he has turned into

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

What does country first mean?

It's another way of saying if you're not with us you're against us, or if you're against the war you're against the troops. You know, the typical uber-patriotic BS they try to push.

[FRPLG]

I think the Country First slogan is meant to attrack those people, of which there are a pretty good amount, who think Dems are America's apologists. They think Dems have a negative view of our country as whole and the way we have done things both nationally and internationally and think we suck. It is a depiction that I don't all-together believe in but I understand why a good amount of people have come to that conclusion without much thought.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmek25

he only crossed party lines because he thought he couldn't get elected as a democrat. what a joke he has turned into

To be clear, Lieberman hasn't officially crossed party lines. he's (I believe) an Independent Democrat. He votes with the Democrats most of the time, and sits as part of the Democratic Senate caucus.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by dmek25

he only crossed party lines because he thought he couldn't get elected as a democrat. what a joke he has turned into

He "left" the democrats because they threw him under the bus. They were the ones who decided to work against him so he couldn't get the nom in his own state. Then they get pissed because he runs as an independent and gets elected. It is that type of politics, that happens on both sides, that kills our system. A guy they nominated vor VP 6 years earlier suddenly doesn't agree with them on some issues and they scorched earth him. Talk about an "you either with us or against us" mentallity.