Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

When I heard Jerry Jones was very pissed when we took Colt I didn't think much of it. Now I think JC needs to sit. I love this team, but that was more than embarssing. That was horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible. I know it's just the first game but damn that JC guy looked like a joke.

Ok you Colt Brennan ppl need to shut the hell up.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Ok you Colt Brennan ppl need to shut the hell up.

why? i havent joined the colt bandwagon like some other people,but if zorn would have stuck him in at some point in the second half I wouldnt have been unhappy with the descision,unlike every other frickin one he made tonite

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

why? i havent joined the colt bandwagon like some other people,but if zorn would have stuck him in at some point in the second half I wouldnt have been unhappy with the descision,unlike every other frickin one he made tonite

Zorn can stick Colt when we're 0-4, ok? In the second half JC played better when the o-line gave him time and when the WRs weren't dropping the ball. That bomb that Moss missed was partly Moss' fault b/c he stopped. Moss also dropped a short pass, and when JC had time to pass there were no receivers open. I'm not saying JC was perfect, but he adjusted in the second half. Unfortunately we were behind and our 2:00 minute drill play calling sucks. The team needs to get its act together, but we shouldn't throw in the towel, that's just stupid.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Zorn can stick Colt when we're 0-4, ok? In the second half JC played better when the o-line gave him time and when the WRs weren't dropping the ball. That bomb that Moss missed was partly Moss' fault b/c he stopped. Moss also dropped a short pass, and when JC had time to pass there were no receivers open. I'm not saying JC was perfect, but he adjusted in the second half. Unfortunately we were behind and our 2:00 minute drill play calling sucks. The team needs to get its act together, but we shouldn't throw in the towel, that's just stupid.

Agreed. By what standards could anyone say Cambell had a bad game? 15 for 27, 133 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT's, and an 81.3 passer in his first game with a new offense against one of the nastiest defenses in the league? Cmon, if we're going to criticizing, how bout Cooley? Where was he tonight, except for when he was getting bowled over when blocking the rush? Perhaps his thoughts were on his next blog and how he's going to spend more of that big old signing bonus he wrote so much about.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Coff

Agreed. By what standards could anyone say Cambell had a bad game? 15 for 27, 133 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT's, and an 81.3 passer in his first game with a new offense against one of the nastiest defenses in the league? Cmon, if we're going to criticizing, how bout Cooley? Where was he tonight, except for when he was getting bowled over when blocking the rush? Perhaps his thoughts were on his next blog and how he's going to spend more of that big old signing bonus he wrote so much about.

Are you serious?? I mean really?? Stand JC up next to any other NFL
QB out there right now and tell me how much better he is DURING GAME TIME, and screw the f*cking numbers. That first throw Portis was hanging there middle field wide open and he never even looked, not once did he turn his head.. he was just lookin for Moss.. never even turned left.. and I saw it all night long. Last drive Randal El was WIDE open and he chose to throw deep to moss and Randal El had a straight shot into th endzone. He didn't even look. If I were Zorn I'd be beating my head against a wall trying to figure out how the hell to bench his ass and now get fired.. what a f*cking mess!

OK.. now I'm going to bed.. God Help the Skins!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Are you serious?? I mean really?? Stand JC up next to any other NFL
QB out there right now and tell me how much better he is DURING GAME TIME, and screw the f*cking numbers. That first throw Portis was hanging there middle field wide open and he never even looked, not once did he turn his head.. he was just lookin for Moss.. never even turned left.. and I saw it all night long. Last drive Randal El was WIDE open and he chose to throw deep to moss and Randal El had a straight shot into th endzone. He didn't even look. If I were Zorn I'd be beating my head against a wall trying to figure out how the hell to bench his ass and now get fired.. what a f*cking mess!

OK.. now I'm going to bed.. God Help the Skins!

I'm sorry but you can't just pin the fault on a single person. For everytime JC f'ed there was a missed block by the o-line, receivers dropping the ball, and plays being negated by penalties. Gamecalling wasn't that great either. Honestly the only people that did well and helped us not get blown out of this game was the Defense (gave up only 16 pts even with so many 3 and outs by the offense), Brooks punting (how many punts were inside the 20?), and Portis who ran well (and should have ran some more). So people stop trying to pin this on JUST Campbell, this is a team and as a team they all bear the blame.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm sorry but you can't just pin the fault on a single person. For everytime JC f'ed there was a missed block by the o-line, receivers dropping the ball, and plays being negated by penalties. Gamecalling wasn't that great either. Honestly the only people that did well and helped us not get blown out of this game was the Defense (gave up only 16 pts even with so many 3 and outs by the offense), Brooks punting (how many punts were inside the 20?), and Portis who ran well (and should have ran some more). So people stop trying to pin this on JUST Campbell, this is a team and as a team they all bear the blame.

QBs set the tone, they run the offense.. he does NOT do that AT ALL. He sits and wonders and looks.. and then he throws.. You need a QB to lead and make plays and BE YOUR MAN. He's a sorry damn excuse for a QB.. ....

I'm obvioulsy not happy.. actually I'm PISSED. BENCH HIS ASS!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm sorry but you can't just pin the fault on a single person. For everytime JC f'ed there was a missed block by the o-line, receivers dropping the ball, and plays being negated by penalties. Gamecalling wasn't that great either. Honestly the only people that did well and helped us not get blown out of this game was the Defense (gave up only 16 pts even with so many 3 and outs by the offense), Brooks punting (how many punts were inside the 20?), and Portis who ran well (and should have ran some more). So people stop trying to pin this on JUST Campbell, this is a team and as a team they all bear the blame.

Honestly the people that just blame JC don't know shit about football and it's typical knee jerk reaction. JC does deserve some blame cause he just doesn't seem to come off to his 2nd and 3rd wr yet. He doesn't seem to have good field vision yet. But he is going to need more time in this offense and everyone needs to be patient. He certainly doesn't have anyone like Plax. Burress to throw to. We have below average wr's and an average line. Plus why all the dink and dunk passes? WTF was that all about? Looked like the 06 offense to me.

As far as the defense, they stunk and Taylor either should not have been in there or he's simply not ready to play NFC East football. Both he and Carter were terrible tonight. And we really miss the presence of #21 and that position needs to be addressed next year. But regardless of how bad the defense played we only gave up 16 points on the road. This one is on the offense. Should have kept Al around for one more year!!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

why? i havent joined the colt bandwagon like some other people,but if zorn would have stuck him in at some point in the second half I wouldnt have been unhappy with the descision,unlike every other frickin one he made tonite

I would have been very unhappy if Zorn put in Brennan. A lot of you know how happy I am that we picked Colt, but if Zorn put him in the game week 1, then that would show 0% confidence in Campbell. That would be a moronic move, and if he did that, I'd be ready to fire Zorn. Did campbell play well? Absolutely not! But you let Zorn review the tapes and work with Campbell, you don't pull the rug out week 1. If we're 2-11 and it's mainly campbell's fault...sure, I can see the move, but this is Campbell's team, and you let him work through it. Campbell played MUCH better in the 2nd half, hopefully he will build on it.

I am a little concerned at how quick everyone is ready to hit the panic button. It's not even "hitting" the panic button, it's jumping on it over and over and over. Relax guys, we can do this (lose) about 6 more times and we can still make the playoffs.