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[Luxorreb]

So Paintrain you think we will beat the Saints? And have a winning record after 6 games? There are serious gaps that still haven't been addressed since last season. From our draft we have 1 starter, a punter, who performed worse than Frost, who we cut. Cerrato's days are numbered. Thomas, Kelly, Tryon? How about depth at CB, OL, DL? Perhaps a S? Hopefully we can eventually use Colt, but I think the schedule is very difficult and it would take a Gibbs presence to help make miracles. Do you believe in miracles?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

So Paintrain you think we will beat the Saints? And have a winning record after 6 games? There are serious gaps that still haven't been addressed since last season. From our draft we have 1 starter, a punter, who performed worse than Frost, who we cut. Cerrato's days are numbered. Thomas, Kelly, Tryon? How about depth at CB, OL, DL? Perhaps a S? Hopefully we can eventually use Colt, but I think the schedule is very difficult and it would take a Gibbs presence to help make miracles. Do you believe in miracles?

I don't know if we'll beat the Saints or not but I expect to see improvement in that game. I really don't care if we have a winning record after 6 games, it's after 16 that I am concerned with. I didn't realize that games stopped counting after Columbus Day, did I miss that rule change?

I'm not ready to judge an entire draft class on one preseason game. If that were the case there would be a whole bunch of unemployed Pro Bowlers who didn't show anything early in their careers and a ton of fired executives. Draft classes can be judged in Year 3, not Day 1.

Please explain to me how 'depth' at CB, OL, DL or S would have reversed the outcome of tonights games. We didn't get beat on 'depth', our starters got their asses whipped for a half.

I believe in miracles but I don't think one is necessary for us to have a decent season.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't know if we'll beat the Saints or not but I expect to see improvement in that game. I really don't care if we have a winning record after 6 games, it's after 16 that I am concerned with. I didn't realize that games stopped counting after Columbus Day, did I miss that rule change?

I'm not ready to judge an entire draft class on one preseason game. If that were the case there would be a whole bunch of unemployed Pro Bowlers who didn't show anything early in their careers and a ton of fired executives. Draft classes can be judged in Year 3, not Day 1.

Please explain to me how 'depth' at CB, OL, DL or S would have reversed the outcome of tonights games. We didn't get beat on 'depth', our starters got their asses whipped for a half.

I believe in miracles but I don't think one is necessary for us to have a decent season.

Amen Brother!

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

So Paintrain you think we will beat the Saints? And have a winning record after 6 games? There are serious gaps that still haven't been addressed since last season. From our draft we have 1 starter, a punter, who performed worse than Frost, who we cut. Cerrato's days are numbered. Thomas, Kelly, Tryon? How about depth at CB, OL, DL? Perhaps a S? Hopefully we can eventually use Colt, but I think the schedule is very difficult and it would take a Gibbs presence to help make miracles. Do you believe in miracles?

People discount how difficult a coaching change is initially. Both Gibbs and Schottenheimer started 0-5 here. While I believe that Zorn will work out fine in the long run, I can easily see the Skins starting 1-4 or 0-5 this year, especially given the brutal early portion of the schedule. I was alarmed by the lack of intensity by the defensive front 7 in the first quarter. Campbell looked shaky as well, but that is to be expected when you have a young QB in yet another new offense.

Another disappointment was the inability of the DBs to catch INTs when they were there for the taking. Smoot caught one, but dropped one in the end zone. Rogers dropped two, including one that would have gone to the house, and Landry also dropped one. When the team is struggling, sometimes just making a play can light a fire, and those 4 dropped INTs might have changed the momentum in our favor.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

People discount how difficult a coaching change is initially. Both Gibbs and Schottenheimer started 0-5 here. While I believe that Zorn will work out fine in the long run, I can easily see the Skins starting 1-4 or 0-5 this year, especially given the brutal early portion of the schedule.
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1-4 or 2-3 is likely and we could still end up 9-7 or 10-6 and in the playoffs. IMO, our three toughest games of the year are in the first 5 weeks (@NY, @PHI, @Dallas). In the long run, it will show a lot about Zorn's character and leadership with how he comes out of that fifth game and moving forward.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

People discount how difficult a coaching change is initially. Both Gibbs and Schottenheimer started 0-5 here. While I believe that Zorn will work out fine in the long run, I can easily see the Skins starting 1-4 or 0-5 this year, especially given the brutal early portion of the schedule. I was alarmed by the lack of intensity by the defensive front 7 in the first quarter. Campbell looked shaky as well, but that is to be expected when you have a young QB in yet another new offense.

Another disappointment was the inability of the DBs to catch INTs when they were there for the taking. Smoot caught one, but dropped one in the end zone. Rogers dropped two, including one that would have gone to the house, and Landry also dropped one. When the team is struggling, sometimes just making a play can light a fire, and those 4 dropped INTs might have changed the momentum in our favor.

This is a HUGE big picture point most people are ignoring. Smoot catches that ball, it's now 13 points given up rather than 16. If Rogers catches the one he would have scored on it's now 14 points scored rather than 7. Rogers or Landry catch the other 2 and we've changed possession and field position for our offense.

There aren't many teams that are going to look great offensively starting every drive on their own 24 yard line. Good to great teams get help from their defense to 'flip the field' and convert shorter scoring drives. We're not the Pats, Colts or Cowboys. We're not going to have too many 76 yard drives each game, we need those game changing plays to be made.

IF those plays were made, we'd all be talking about the second coming of the '85 Bears. The defense making those plays makes the offense better by putting them in positions to succeed!