Daseal's Random Thoughts:

[Paintrain]

great call on ARE.. He drives me nuts back there.. Run the direction the ball came from, it's not that hard!

The refs were pretty bad on some of the extra curriculars for sure. Jacobs should have gotten 15 yds for that slap and Pierce for the Kendall scrape.. The PI in the endzone was garbage also.. I think since Moss was hit and went to the ground, even before possession, that was the correct call.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

great call on ARE.. He drives me nuts back there.. Run the direction the ball came from, it's not that hard!

The refs were pretty bad on some of the extra curriculars for sure. Jacobs should have gotten 15 yds for that slap and Pierce for the Kendall scrape.. The PI in the endzone was garbage also.. I think since Moss was hit and went to the ground, even before possession, that was the correct call.

A player is not down by contact if he did not establish posession on the catch, gets hit, and is bobbling the ball on the way down. Once Moss gained possession on his back, he should have been free to get up an run UNLESS he was touched down AFTER gaining posession. The refs have been coached to avoid the quick whistle since that voids replay in that situation. They blew the call, plain and simple.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

A player is not down by contact if he did not establish posession on the catch, gets hit, and is bobbling the ball on the way down. Once Moss gained possession on his back, he should have been free to get up an run UNLESS he was touched down AFTER gaining posession. The refs have been coached to avoid the quick whistle since that voids replay in that situation. They blew the call, plain and simple.

Absolutely right. This is not college.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

A player is not down by contact if he did not establish posession on the catch, gets hit, and is bobbling the ball on the way down. Once Moss gained possession on his back, he should have been free to get up an run UNLESS he was touched down AFTER gaining posession. The refs have been coached to avoid the quick whistle since that voids replay in that situation. They blew the call, plain and simple.

yeah that was a weird play. moss clearly didnt have possession until after contact and he then wedged it against his butt check and brought it in, then he should have been able to get up and take it to the house. I was screaming for moss to keep running but the whistle had blown. Just such a weird play I cant really blame the refs but im still scratching my head on when exactly the refs thought he had possession to count as a catch then consider him down by contact?

i know refs were instructed to not blow the quick whistle on potential fumble/down by contact plays a few years ago but this play was like david tyree but moss used his butt cheek.

smoot PI play, i didnt see smoot with his head turned toward the ball. to me he def made/initiated contact with toomer without having his eye on the ball. pretty easy call but i do hope they call offensive pushing off more because TO (like most big good wrs) loves doing that in the endzone and it is sooooooo frustrating to watch.

go skins!