The Santana Moss Catch

[hucapn]

Ok, this is going to hurt my heart to say but I feel that I must speak my mind to my fellow fans. I have watched this team closely from opening day at Ashburn, to Buffalo, and the debauchle the was the last two pre-season games. Everytime the ball is passed from Jason Campbell to Santana Moss, something goes wrong. Under thrown, over thrown, Santana quits on the route, the ball is dropped, or he stops short of the sticks. His first pass to Santana in ANY GAME IS NEVER COMPLETE. I watch the throws to Cooley and Randle El, (when he actually has time to throw the ball) hit their target crisp and in space to make plays. There is a chemistry problem between those two guys. Brunell was the best thing that happened to Santana and might have been the reason he was sucessful in DC. I love the deep threat that he poses, but when he is on the field with only one other reciever he cuts out field in half because JC does not have the confidence in Santana to go that way with the ball. Watch the tapes this year and last. A bump off the line and a deep shadow eliminates Moss and we are left with Cooley double teamed and Randle El up against a corner who is bigger, faster, and younger than him.

With that said I make the statement. We need to trade Moss and get either another high draft pick or make another deal similar to the Jets/Coles trade. Drew Brees just throws the ball to Colston knowing he can out physical a guy to the sticks. The only things we have close to that reported to camp in no type of shape (with a bum knee) and backing up Todd Yoder?

We need to deal with this issue before Santana and Antwan are 35, slower, and still 5'6" while we're still wondering why we can't pass the ball efectively

[Luxorreb]

Moss was obviously not down, but the whistle blew. It was the NEW Antonio Freeman play, but unfortunately the refs blew too early.

[Paintrain]

I'd bet 10 times out of 10 the ref will blow the whistle there. He got leveled as the ball arrived, and since he caught it between his legs, there was no way for the ref to assume he had just gained possession. The Freeman play was different, both players got tangled and fell to the ground. Moss was actually tackled, just before he had full possession.

[johnjaywilliams]

yo man hucapn i agree moss lost his heart and the fact that he is small doesn't help. him and JC have never really being on the same page. JC already got a long wind up and Santana don't have faith in JC to put the ball where it need to be. JC is big QB he needs big WR that why every year since his bein our startin QB, Cooley and Randell el have being gettin the ball . I say trade Santana for a draft pick and let The rookie D.Thomas start cuz be honest the way how we started this season, i know its only one game, but it look like its goin to be a long one. Santana is still a very good WR but him and JC are just not workin out..

[celts32]

Santana isn't worth much in trade. WR's as good as him are a dime a dozen. He's a good player but he's not worth a high pick.

[SBXVII]

The Skins have always been screwed when it comes to their WR's since Gibbs came back. Most teams have a tall WR as their #1 but the Skins have a small WR as their #1. That puts him up against the #1 CB who is usually faster and taller and able to bat the ball away if he can keep up. Moss should really be a #2 or #3 WR. He can still do the go routes when needed.

Our problem is our rookies are not ready yet. Zorn should be giving Thomas a hand full of plays to learn for the first few games and tell him to master them. Make one or two a go route to complement Moss on his go routes....one will be open. Randel El with his more bulky frame should be handling the over the middle routes slants and curls. They could use Cooley with the crossing patterns with Randel El.

I could not figure out why we went with Heyer instead of Jansen until I think game day when they said we would be using more zone blocking instead of man to man blocking. Apparently Jansen was not getting the zone blocking down correctly or his foot was an issue with his being able to get out of his stance fast enough for the speed rush.

I know I'm being a internet coach and it's something we already know but just felt it needed to be repeated. I think when Thomas starts becoming effective(however soon that will be) and Kelly starts playing we will continue to have the same issues.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The Skins have always been screwed when it comes to their WR's since Gibbs came back. Most teams have a tall WR as their #1 but the Skins have a small WR as their #1. That puts him up against the #1 CB who is usually faster and taller and able to bat the ball away if he can keep up. Moss should really be a #2 or #3 WR. He can still do the go routes when needed.

Our problem is our rookies are not ready yet. Zorn should be giving Thomas a hand full of plays to learn for the first few games and tell him to master them. Make one or two a go route to complement Moss on his go routes....one will be open. Randel El with his more bulky frame should be handling the over the middle routes slants and curls. They could use Cooley with the crossing patterns with Randel El.

I could not figure out why we went with Heyer instead of Jansen until I think game day when they said we would be using more zone blocking instead of man to man blocking. Apparently Jansen was not getting the zone blocking down correctly or his foot was an issue with his being able to get out of his stance fast enough for the speed rush.

I know I'm being a internet coach and it's something we already know but just felt it needed to be repeated. I think when Thomas starts becoming effective(however soon that will be) and Kelly starts playing we will continue to have the same issues.

Hence the 2008 Redskins draft. This wasn't a draft for opening day (as is lost on some people). Thomas projects to be a #1, Kelly is a prototypical #2 possession receiver, Moss and ARE would be deadly in the slot. As we get into October-November and these guys develop a little let's see what happens but for now we've got to deal with what we have.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Hence the 2008 Redskins draft. This wasn't a draft for opening day (as is lost on some people). Thomas projects to be a #1, Kelly is a prototypical #2 possession receiver, Moss and ARE would be deadly in the slot. As we get into October-November and these guys develop a little let's see what happens but for now we've got to deal with what we have.

I agree with you but think your timeline is still too aggressive. More reasonable would be to think that Thomas and Kelly will need offseason, OTA's and an injury-free training camp after watching this year and getting some spot duty.

[celts32]

I don't think anyone around the league would consider Moss a #1 NFL WR. He is our best WR but that doesn't make him a true #1. There are probably only like 10-15 true #1 WR's in the league. A #1 WR is consistent and can draw a double team every week. The hope I think was that one of the rookies could develop into a #1 and make Moss the #2 where he could excel. Oh well...it's not Moss's fault he's not a #1 it's the skins fault for making him one.

[JLW428]

Why is the first letter of every word a capital except the ones that are supposed to be? Just messing around.