Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

wolfeskins · 09-08-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I honestly don't know how anyone who voted for George Bush twice can actually look at themselves in the mirror and say "I voted for a better America." What a disaster. It's not just my opinion. The man has the lowest approval rating of any President.
Ever. Well done. Go Palin.

well, he won twice, so at the time his approval rating was much higher. no one can predict the future. plus look who he was running against. the dems have not had a worthy candidate in a long time, this year included.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 09-08-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I honestly don't know how anyone who voted for George Bush twice can actually look at themselves in the mirror and say "I voted for a better America." What a disaster. It's not just my opinion. The man has the lowest approval rating of any President.
Ever. Well done. Go Palin.

Congressional approval rating is significantly lower. What a disaster. We do agree tho...Go Palin.

jsarno · 09-08-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Well I voted for him twice and he's been a disaster. And if he was up against Obama I'd vote for him again because while GW's policies might have pissed a lot of people off and many were certianly crap I see Obama's policies as causing irrevocable damage to our country. Sometimes voting comes down to who does less damage. Acually most of the time it comes down to that nowadays unfortunately.

I did the same, and for the same reasons. I still have no doubt that Bush was the better option than Gore and Kerry. (IMO the worst two democratic candidates ever back to back.)

MTK · 09-08-2008, 07:30 PM

It's hard to imagine anyone doing a shittier job than W, who is perhaps the worst President ever.

jsarno · 09-08-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's hard to imagine anyone doing a shittier job than W, who is perhaps the worst President ever.

We've gone through this before...he's not all bad. (even posted 10 things that he has done well) I don't agree with everything he's done, but overall, he is certainly not a worse option than Gore / Kerry.

MTK · 09-08-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

We've gone through this before...he's not all bad. (even posted 10 things that he has done well) I don't agree with everything he's done, but overall, he is certainly not a worse option than Gore / Kerry.

We'll never know for sure regarding Gore or Kerry, but what we do know is what a disaster W has been.

jsarno · 09-08-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We'll never know for sure regarding Gore or Kerry, but what we do know is what a disaster W has been.

I disagree that it's a "disaster". I may regret asking this, but why do you think it's a "disaster"?

MTK · 09-08-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I disagree that it's a "disaster". I may regret asking this, but why do you think it's a "disaster"?

Too many things to even bother getting in to. The last 8 years speak for itself. Considering his approval ratings have hit record lows I'm guessing alot of people would agree he's been a disaster.

How would you sum up the last 8 years? A success?

jsarno · 09-08-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Too many things to even bother getting in to. The last 8 years speak for itself. Considering his approval ratings have hit record lows I'm guessing alot of people would agree he's been a disaster.

How would you sum up the last 8 years? A success?

No, but the majority of people agreed to go to war, then pulled the rug out from under him. You also can't blame the rising gas prices solely on him, and those are the two major things people would point to for approval ratings. Also, the people would point to the deficit, yet everyone was more than happy to spend their refund check. So, no, I would not count any of those against his tenure.
Approval ratings mean nothing, and you know it. It's like Polls, they are useless.

wilsowilso · 09-08-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I disagree that it's a "disaster". I may regret asking this, but why do you think it's a "disaster"?

You must be joking?

jsarno · 09-08-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

You must be joking?

I by no means am saying it was a "success", but I think "disaster" is too harsh.

MTK · 09-08-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I by no means am saying it was a "success", but I think "disaster" is too harsh.

Ok so what would you call it then? A moderate failure?

saden1 · 09-08-2008, 08:10 PM

We can't and shouldn't judge him now, history will judge him! That is if historians can get their hands on all the records he burned and erased.

SmootSmack · 09-08-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I did the same, and for the same reasons. I still have no doubt that Bush was the better option than Gore and Kerry. (IMO the worst two democratic candidates ever back to back.)

Worse than Mondale and Dukakis?

I voted for Bush in 2000 because well he was a bit different then, and I understand significant events happened. I voted for him in 2004 because there was nothing compelling about Kerry in my opinion, and I believed (still do) another 4 years of Bush was better than potentially 8 years of Kerry.

Now? I like McCain (liked him in 2000 when he was still a candidate) and I want to vote for him. But I don't like the direction the Republican party is going in, a direction where the extreme right and its desire to "instill its values" on America is dictating the course of the party. I don't like that McCain seemingly felt forced to select Palin as his VP because the far right insisted upon it. It's not that I disagree with their beliefs necessarily, in many cases I agree, but who am I to say that you should too? And, in my case, what does it matter? I mean, look, I don't want to belittle gay marriage. But honestly, what do I care? What do many of us care? You're running for President, great, don't tell me about whether or not gays should be allowed to marry. I don't care what the party platform is on that. Tell me about things that matter to me, that matter to all of us-economy, foreign policy, health care, education. On these issues, I almost fully agree with the Republican party but increasingly it feels like those issues are afterhoughts when they are pushing their agenda. And it really disappoints me. To that end, a part of me strongly leans toward voting for Obama hoping that a significant setback for the GOP will better them down the line.

GhettoDogAllStars · 09-08-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

We can't and shouldn't judge him now, history will judge him! That is if historians can get their hands on all the records he burned and erased.

Doesn't Cheney and the VP office receive executive branch funding?

I feel like Bush/Cheney have made a mockery of America.

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