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Zornometer midterm grade

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View Poll Results: Rank your confidence in Zorn halfway through the season. (1 = no confidence, 5 = total confidence).
5 69 44.52%
4 75 48.39%
3 11 7.10%
2 0 0%
1 0 0%
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:36 PM   #1
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Re: Zornometer midterm grade

5. I don't see how anyone can NOT have total confidence in him.

He doesn't stand for losing, or even mistakes. Ask Durant Brooks. Even ask Portis after this week, not a lot of coaches will rip their star player apart like that, but still get results.
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:12 AM   #2
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5. I don't see how anyone can NOT have total confidence in him.
There are several reasons why some dont have TOTAL confidence in him.
Lets just take the last game.
Against the Lions, opening drive, getting 10 yard chunks.
Then at the 3 yard line, you get fancy and run Campbell...thats right CAMPBELL...why? I have no idea, we end up getting a FG and firing up the home crowd on a goal line stand. Buges and Gibbs would have smashed em in the mouth with Sellers/Portis 4 times in a row and destroyed their confidence.

Also, at the end of the game, not going for the first down to seal the game, rather choosing to run some clock out and giving the ball back...he did that agaist the Browns and Rams too I think...at least one of em....
What happened to the go for the throat in this situation...is that only agaist teams that are playoff contenders?

And he still hasn't found a way to convert yards to points...defensive coordinators have figured him out a bit....keep everything between the 20's and that sometimes neutralized time of possesion.

And until they pulled ARE on punt returns, I would say that was lame....I was screaming for it..next thing I see, Moss returns one for a TD...so I'll shut up on that one.

I gave him a 4, but he needs to evolve, adjust his play-calling a bit to get in the endzone, where the hell is Cooley inside the 20?...Sellers can even grab some, where is our 2 TE set in that situation that everyone used to justify sigining a rookie TE? Right now this offense is all Moss and Portis...defenses know we cant do a fade in the corner of the endzone because of height issues.
Kudos on benching Jansen when he was sucking.

Regarding Defense.
We should have benched Jason Taylor by now, he obviously has no experience benching himself in order to get healthy....now were in risk of losing any productivity for the year...
James should be groomed, Wilson should be used more, even Washington as end occassionally, we are not being creative enough on the DE position in 3rd and long
...and....what about Washington....at some point, we may need to bench him to, if blades is any better.

Special teams has been particularly weak on coverage.
Good job on ditching the rookie punter, the new guy looks fat and servicable.
High risk move changing holders though, I would have used the backup QB from preseason to avoid risk...however, the gamble has paid off and things look fine.

I have also noticed that sometimes Zorn struggles to get plays called soon enough in the last 2-3 games...costing timeouts on a couple occasions.

Overall, he is doing great but playing down to competition does not equal a 5 to me....if you cant blowout the Lions, you cant blowout anyone.
He's got a lot to learn...but overall, I am suprised at how well he is doing.
It was wise to not change the running game or the defense.

Big kudos from me...just don't drink all the kool-aid in one gulp.
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I agree almost 100% with skinsnut. There's a lot to be happy about, but Zorn still needs to get better in some key areas.
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There are several reasons why some dont have TOTAL confidence in him.
Lets just take the last game.
Against the Lions, opening drive, getting 10 yard chunks.
Then at the 3 yard line, you get fancy and run Campbell...thats right CAMPBELL...why? I have no idea, we end up getting a FG and firing up the home crowd on a goal line stand. Buges and Gibbs would have smashed em in the mouth with Sellers/Portis 4 times in a row and destroyed their confidence.

Also, at the end of the game, not going for the first down to seal the game, rather choosing to run some clock out and giving the ball back...he did that agaist the Browns and Rams too I think...at least one of em....
What happened to the go for the throat in this situation...is that only agaist teams that are playoff contenders?

And he still hasn't found a way to convert yards to points...defensive coordinators have figured him out a bit....keep everything between the 20's and that sometimes neutralized time of possesion.

And until they pulled ARE on punt returns, I would say that was lame....I was screaming for it..next thing I see, Moss returns one for a TD...so I'll shut up on that one.

I gave him a 4, but he needs to evolve, adjust his play-calling a bit to get in the endzone, where the hell is Cooley inside the 20?...Sellers can even grab some, where is our 2 TE set in that situation that everyone used to justify sigining a rookie TE? Right now this offense is all Moss and Portis...defenses know we cant do a fade in the corner of the endzone because of height issues.
Kudos on benching Jansen when he was sucking.

Regarding Defense.
We should have benched Jason Taylor by now, he obviously has no experience benching himself in order to get healthy....now were in risk of losing any productivity for the year...
James should be groomed, Wilson should be used more, even Washington as end occassionally, we are not being creative enough on the DE position in 3rd and long
...and....what about Washington....at some point, we may need to bench him to, if blades is any better.

Special teams has been particularly weak on coverage.
Good job on ditching the rookie punter, the new guy looks fat and servicable.
High risk move changing holders though, I would have used the backup QB from preseason to avoid risk...however, the gamble has paid off and things look fine.

I have also noticed that sometimes Zorn struggles to get plays called soon enough in the last 2-3 games...costing timeouts on a couple occasions.

Overall, he is doing great but playing down to competition does not equal a 5 to me....if you cant blowout the Lions, you cant blowout anyone.
He's got a lot to learn...but overall, I am suprised at how well he is doing.
It was wise to not change the running game or the defense.

Big kudos from me...just don't drink all the kool-aid in one gulp.
great post,before this game I would have gave him a 4.5,after this game it drops to a 2.5 . 2 primetime games and 2 flops,and it isnt just that they were flops,its the terrible descision making and clock management that make zorn look bad.We know he's a good coach,but he's got to step it up in big games,to the rest of the country that doesnt watch all the skins games he probably looks like a joke.We have to beat Dallas,another primetime game and if we lose,imo we dont make the playoffs,the division is too tough
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