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Old 11-30-2008, 05:27 PM   #1
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Nobody mentioned that we played some really good teams, and today we played the now 11-1 defending Super Bowl champions who are arguably the best team in football, and certainly the best in the NFC.
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I got to agree to some extent it is our division and what teams we have played to this point. I also think our O-Line and D-Lines' struggles are hurting us.

Tonight it was obvious that not having a true second receiver is hurting us as well.
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:57 PM   #2
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Nobody mentioned that we played some really good teams, and today we played the now 11-1 defending Super Bowl champions who are arguably the best team in football, and certainly the best in the NFC.
This is a game we should have won. The opportunities were there. We beat ourselves by not executing and making dumb mistakes.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:36 PM   #3
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Nobody mentioned that we played some really good teams, and today we played the now 11-1 defending Super Bowl champions who are arguably the best team in football, and certainly the best in the NFC.

Hey bud we lost to the sorry ass Rams, let the sorry ass Lions actually have an outside chance at tying the game, even though statistically we dominated them, and had to battle for a win over the sorry ass Seachickens. Before that we got blasted by the Steelers, a team with a QB one nasty hit away from IR, and an injury plagued RB. We are not playing sound football right now.

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Old 11-30-2008, 04:38 PM   #4
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First year coach, first year offense. I think we tend to forget that. This is going to be a very good team... but not this year. The execution is not what it will be. Simple mistakes cost us THIS game. Thrash and Kelly both dropped passes on third down. Jasons INT intended to ARE could have been a TD but was underthrown. Simple FG.....missed. Hall has an INT coming right at him and Springs jumps in front of him and drops it. This offense is making mistakes that it won't make next year. We are not scoring points like we should be. I'm not making excuses, it's just a fact that this team is not as good in this offense this year as it will be next year.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:46 PM   #5
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First year coach, first year offense. I think we tend to forget that. This is going to be a very good team... but not this year. The execution is not what it will be. Simple mistakes cost us THIS game. Thrash and Kelly both dropped passes on third down. Jasons INT intended to ARE could have been a TD but was underthrown. Simple FG.....missed. Hall has an INT coming right at him and Springs jumps in front of him and drops it. This offense is making mistakes that it won't make next year. We are not scoring points like we should be. I'm not making excuses, it's just a fact that this team is not as good in this offense this year as it will be next year.
Goddamnit 53 i love your optimism (all seriousness here)! R u a motivational speaker?
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[QUOTE=The Goat;505762]Goddamnit 53 i love your optimism (all seriousness here)! R u a motivational speaker?[/QUOTE]

Not hardly. Look, we want to win every game. We're fans. I get as fed up as anybody with the stupid ass mistakes we make. I KNOW we can win these games! But I think we expect more than maybe we should at this point in time. It would be crazy to believe that after 12 games in a new offense, that the team would run it as if we've been doing it for 2-3 years. If we don't show improvement next year, then I'd be worried. Campbell's been told not to lock- in to one receiver, check-down, get rid of the ball quickly. Now he's being told, don't check-down so fast, give the primary receiver time for the play to develop. This offense takes time to learn. Kelly is just getting started. We're 7-5 through this and somehow still in the playoff hunt. I see good signs. After listening to some of the "fans" I realize, judgements made in haste, are judgements not made with much thought, and sound pretty dumb. Being on this board has actually helped me. I'm an emotional guy and usually raising hell about something.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:47 PM   #7
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First year coach, first year offense. I think we tend to forget that. This is going to be a very good team... but not this year. The execution is not what it will be. Simple mistakes cost us THIS game. Thrash and Kelly both dropped passes on third down. Jasons INT intended to ARE could have been a TD but was underthrown. Simple FG.....missed. Hall has an INT coming right at him and Springs jumps in front of him and drops it. This offense is making mistakes that it won't make next year. We are not scoring points like we should be. I'm not making excuses, it's just a fact that this team is not as good in this offense this year as it will be next year.
I think there's no where but up to go from here. We don't downright stink, but next year will be better. Assuming Dan Synder doesn't get disgruntled and decide to blow up the team over the offseason.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:52 PM   #8
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The best teams have used their high draft picks for the OL and DL. We haven't done so in many years........Any question on why our trench play is average at best?
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:13 PM   #9
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The best teams have used their high draft picks for the OL and DL. We haven't done so in many years........Any question on why our trench play is average at best?
Our last O-lineman drafted earlier than the third round was Chris Samuels in 2000. The last D-lineman that we drafted earlier than the 5th round was Kenard Lang in 1997. This is an absolute joke. I don't want another play maker. We have plenty invested in playmakers. We need to get tougher on the interior to compete with the best.
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:26 PM   #10
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Our last O-lineman drafted earlier than the third round was Chris Samuels in 2000. The last D-lineman that we drafted earlier than the 5th round was Kenard Lang in 1997. This is an absolute joke. I don't want another play maker. We have plenty invested in playmakers. We need to get tougher on the interior to compete with the best.
I agree completely. That's exactly what I was saying. You can't draft 5th or 7th round picks every few years and expect to get winners in the trenches. An excellent DL improves any DBs. A great OL makes any QB or RB look great.

Look what the top teams draft every year. That's why everyone can't understand our crazy draft strategy for the last dozen years. That's also why we kept old players like Bruce Smith, Wynn, etc who were past their prime. Cerratto and Zorn need to change our draft strategy.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:51 PM   #11
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First year coach, first year offense. I think we tend to forget that. This is going to be a very good team... but not this year. The execution is not what it will be. Simple mistakes cost us THIS game. Thrash and Kelly both dropped passes on third down. Jasons INT intended to ARE could have been a TD but was underthrown. Simple FG.....missed. Hall has an INT coming right at him and Springs jumps in front of him and drops it. This offense is making mistakes that it won't make next year. We are not scoring points like we should be. I'm not making excuses, it's just a fact that this team is not as good in this offense this year as it will be next year.
Good Point.
Next year I can see this offense putting up alot of points. JC will be more comfortable in the system. The rookies will contribute alot more. Teams will not be able to contain Moss and Portis and shut down the whole offense next season.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:55 PM   #12
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Good Point.
Next year I can see this offense putting up alot of points. JC will be more comfortable in the system. The rookies will contribute alot more. Teams will not be able to contain Moss and Portis and shut down the whole offense next season.
Wait a second. Alot will depend on what the Redskins do. If they do not address pass protection issues, if they do not address right tackle, and by that I do not mean Stephon Heyer, this offense is not going to move the bal. I am compltely convinced the pains an dills of this offensive lines at the offensive line.

The redskins also need to find a real, legit second receiver, because we simply don't have one.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:39 PM   #13
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I think we're just not as good of a team as we all thought. We need improvement in some areas for sure (OL, DL) but I still think we have the talent. We just can't execute.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:46 PM   #14
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Yes your right about Thrash, and Kelly dropping balls but i not sold on Campbell leading this team.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:46 PM   #15
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The same thing that has plagued this team for 5 years. Offensive Line, defensive line and a lack of a second receiver.

It really does start up front though. Good teams, really good teams, take advantage of the Lines. Giants have an excellent dline and oline. Patriots for years had an excellent dline and oline. We lack both. We can sustain pressure at all from the front four. Our offensive line failed to open holes or protect JC. Nothing new for Redskins fans.
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