Redskins vs. Ravens pre-game thread

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I just want to make sure you are arguing that this game is important because a win could re-establish the team as a legitimate playoff contender. Because from a playoff picture perspective, this game is only really relevant if Dallas goes on to beat Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Otherwise, this is a largely meaningless game in terms of making the playoffs.

Short reasoning is: A 10-6 finish (with a non-conference 6th loss) that puts is into a tie for the 6th seed means we'll win the tiebreaker.

If Dallas gets to 11-5, and beats either the Giants or the Eagles along the way, we will not hold the tiebreaker against them. If the Cowboys beat the Steelers, the Giants, and the Eagles for example, then we're already eliminated mathematically (at least from 2nd place in the NFC East, but it's a safe bet that Tampa and Atlanta will both win 11 games).

Basically, the chances that this game represents any sort of change in the playoff picture for us, win or lose, is very very low. We gain soooo much more ground if Tampa beats Carolina, New Orleans beats Atlanta, and Pittsburgh beats Dallas while we lose to Baltimore than if all those outcomes are reversed, and we win.

Basically, we're no less likely to make the playoffs at 8-6 in two weeks, than we are at 9-5. The last two games (if we're still in it) will be for all the marbles.

I hope so, me and 4 friends dropped some serious money for tickets to the eagles game thinking it could be the most important home game playoff push wise . . . man i wish the last game was at home, fed ex field is an awesome place to be on the last reg season when the skins win to clinch a playoff spot. no exaggeration, its better than christmas morning for a 10 year old.

nice post about if the other teams win or lose in relation to the outcome of the ravens game, i did not know that, thanks.

go skinnSSS!!

[Takeuon]

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Originally Posted by irish View Post
No mod has ever tried to stop me from making any positive or negative comments which says a lot for the mods.


That's what great about this site, even though I can't stand your opinion but I am glad to hear it.

The only thing that annoys me about your posts Irish, is that you seem to be on a posting frenzy when things are going bad, yet during our streak I didn't see too much of your praise.



Got into this argument last season. I respect what others choose to predict. However I have NOT , will NOT predict a loss.....EVER. Sorry, but it personally does nothing for me. Morally, psychologically, or to say "hey look! I was correct. I predicted a loss!"

Redskins 24
B-More 16

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Back to the game, I think the biggest matchup is, as JLC pointed out, going to be between Rabach and Ngata. Prior to this season, I actually thought Rabach was a pretty good center. I overlooked incidents like the one in which Rabach essentially cost us the game against the Chargers game back in 2005. Now, I think the Redskins should strongly consider replacing him. He gets flagged for dumb penalties, gets beaten way too often in pass protection, and doesn't particularly stand out in run-blocking either.

If Rabach struggles against Ngata, and I think he will, we are going to struggle mightily. Sacks kill drives and beget sacks. The Ravens outside linebackers bring too much pressure and, if Jason is forced to step up into a pocket which is collapsing because Rabach is getting beat, we're looking at a 5-7 sack game. If that happens, we're looking at 10-14 points of offensive production from our B&G.

Rabach was actually pretty good prior to this season. Not sure what happened there.

[zman64]

They need to show some urgency and a little heart and play to win.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Rabach was actually pretty good prior to this season. Not sure what happened there.

Been thinking the same thing all season. He's just not the guy on the o-line I expected to drop-off...

[RedskinRat]

I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but I just want to see # 11 and # 12 step the **** up and dominate!

[redsk1]

God, we need a win badly Sunday night for my own sanity. I'm tired of reading posts about what's wrong w/ the skins.

[redsk1]

Wind chills in the teens, the Skins win a sqeaker 9-5 against the Ravens. Suisham hits 3 FG's and misses 2. Flacco is picked at least twice.

Zorn: Let's see some overpursuit-misdirection plays. Get Bett's and Cartwright in there early if CP seems too hurt. Flee-flicker? Wild-skin formation?

[RiggoDrill]

I read this board just about every day, but do not post much at all - yet for some reason I felt compelled to make one earlier in this thread. Several people love to take shots at Irish every time one of his posts appears. Irish tends to be quite critical of the Redskins, and he is entitled to be so - he is a fan and expects better from the team and the organization than he has been given over the years. Many of us here expect better.
I was not trying to defend him or his opinions in any way. I just thought it somewhat amusing that a weekly thread that is usually so full of hope and, in my opinion, unreasonable predictions of crushing victories for the Skins turned into a fact vs. fact argument about rankings, opponents records, etc.
Sherriff gave me the nod of being a Debbie Downer (very funny, btw!) but I do not see myself that way. I am a season ticket holder, and I tape every home game and watch it 2 or 3 times when I get home from the stadium. I love the Redskins, and have since I saw my first game at RFK in 1972. My home is filled with Redskin paraphenalia that I have collected over the last 35 years. My children wear Redskins pj's and have redskins teddy bears named Riggo and Joe. I wear my Ron McDole jersey every Sunday. When the season is over, I count the days until the opening of training camp. I drive to Ashburn every fall to watch practice. It goes on and on...
Its nice to be optimistic, but I like to temper my optimism with a little reality. Here is reality - the offense is struggling to put points on the board, and has been since the St. Loius game. The team is playing on the road against a ferocious defense that feeds on and grows stronger with every mistake made by the opposition. Reality (which some label pessimism) tells me that the Redskins will have a very difficult time on Sunday. I absolutely want the team to win, I hope they do, but I will not pop happy pills and proclaim a 35-0 Skins victory. Sorry guys.

[calia]

Originally Posted by RiggoDrill

I read this board just about every day, but do not post much at all - yet for some reason I felt compelled to make one earlier in this thread. Several people love to take shots at Irish every time one of his posts appears. Irish tends to be quite critical of the Redskins, and he is entitled to be so - he is a fan and expects better from the team and the organization than he has been given over the years. Many of us here expect better.
I was not trying to defend him or his opinions in any way. I just thought it somewhat amusing that a weekly thread that is usually so full of hope and, in my opinion, unreasonable predictions of crushing victories for the Skins turned into a fact vs. fact argument about rankings, opponents records, etc.
Sherriff gave me the nod of being a Debbie Downer (very funny, btw!) but I do not see myself that way. I am a season ticket holder, and I tape every home game and watch it 2 or 3 times when I get home from the stadium. I love the Redskins, and have since I saw my first game at RFK in 1972. My home is filled with Redskin paraphenalia that I have collected over the last 35 years. My children wear Redskins pj's and have redskins teddy bears named Riggo and Joe. I wear my Ron McDole jersey every Sunday. When the season is over, I count the days until the opening of training camp. I drive to Ashburn every fall to watch practice. It goes on and on...
Its nice to be optimistic, but I like to temper my optimism with a little reality. Here is reality - the offense is struggling to put points on the board, and has been since the St. Loius game. The team is playing on the road against a ferocious defense that feeds on and grows stronger with every mistake made by the opposition. Reality (which some label pessimism) tells me that the Redskins will have a very difficult time on Sunday. I absolutely want the team to win, I hope they do, but I will not pop happy pills and proclaim a 35-0 Skins victory. Sorry guys.

Hard to disagree with this. As for me, it is so frustrating because I think we're so very close to being better than the product we leave on the field. In virtually every game, we can point to 4 or 5 plays (at most) that had they gone the other way, we come out with a W. And the optimists in all of us feel so deflated when it doesn't happen. (My wife tells me I sulk for days -- I deny it, but she's right.)

I have no doubt that the Skins have enough talent to beat the Ravens. Their D is terrific, but the Giants lit them up, and we have a lot on the line on Sunday. Having lost games we could have won against the Rams and Cowboys, we have no more margin for error. If we're to lose (and pretty much end our playoff hopes), I hope it is at least with a real fight.

[prinzeofmoval]

This game is an important one. This is our playoff right here. If we lose with a Cowboy or Falcons win its borderline impossible to get in. I dont wanna hear we made strong strides with a first time coach or new system. We are a team rich in tradition and history. Not to make the playoffs is a failure point blank.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by RiggoDrill

I read this board just about every day, but do not post much at all - yet for some reason I felt compelled to make one earlier in this thread. Several people love to take shots at Irish every time one of his posts appears. Irish tends to be quite critical of the Redskins, and he is entitled to be so - he is a fan and expects better from the team and the organization than he has been given over the years. Many of us here expect better.
I was not trying to defend him or his opinions in any way. I just thought it somewhat amusing that a weekly thread that is usually so full of hope and, in my opinion, unreasonable predictions of crushing victories for the Skins turned into a fact vs. fact argument about rankings, opponents records, etc.
Sherriff gave me the nod of being a Debbie Downer (very funny, btw!) but I do not see myself that way. I am a season ticket holder, and I tape every home game and watch it 2 or 3 times when I get home from the stadium. I love the Redskins, and have since I saw my first game at RFK in 1972. My home is filled with Redskin paraphenalia that I have collected over the last 35 years. My children wear Redskins pj's and have redskins teddy bears named Riggo and Joe. I wear my Ron McDole jersey every Sunday. When the season is over, I count the days until the opening of training camp. I drive to Ashburn every fall to watch practice. It goes on and on...
Its nice to be optimistic, but I like to temper my optimism with a little reality. Here is reality - the offense is struggling to put points on the board, and has been since the St. Loius game. The team is playing on the road against a ferocious defense that feeds on and grows stronger with every mistake made by the opposition. Reality (which some label pessimism) tells me that the Redskins will have a very difficult time on Sunday. I absolutely want the team to win, I hope they do, but I will not pop happy pills and proclaim a 35-0 Skins victory. Sorry guys.

Some people are optimists by nature, some are pessimists, and many fall somewhere in between. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by RiggoDrill

Sherriff gave me the nod of being a Debbie Downer (very funny, btw!) but I do not see myself that way.

Actually, I wasn't referring to you, irish or any other particular person. I was referring to people who only see the Redskins' shortcomings (or, at least, only talk about such shortcomings), as opposed to the good and the bad.

[NIKNIK_28]

Can Any Please Tell Me How To Post On Here? Sorry But Iam Lost

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NIKNIK_28

Can Any Please Tell Me How To Post On Here? Sorry But Iam Lost

You just did..? :confused: