Giants vs. Redskins Defensive GT Review: Suprisingly effective DL does little good

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

These plays, I think, occur with him playing the three technique. He just looks lost in space. Dillweed, if you read his stuff, noticed this early this year. When teams run the stretch at him, or screens, or the draw play, and can stretch the gap size on the line of scrimmage, he's much more likely to get sealed out of the play or even out leveraged in a double team and driven 8-10 yards out of the play.

On the nose (which is traditionally Golston's position), he seems far more comfortable. He does get a little high sometimes, but I was comparing him to Kris Jenkins: a flawed but incredibly dominant player. I stand by the comparison.

If he has an effort issue, it's not on the tape. Just like most big guys, if you get under his pads you can take him where you want him to go in the running game. He seems to do a good job getting the first blow in though, especially against Centers, since they have to snap the ball first.

Ok good point, I can buy the stuff about him playing the three technique and simply not being suited for that spot, but in regard to his effort and concentration that's kinda been a knock on him since he came out of college, and it seems to be something that Blache has brought up about him and why he favors Golston over him. I do agree with your point that he's a flawed but dominant player, and I would like to see him get more snaps and Blache should do more to get the best out of his abilities.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Here's a really interesting option for the three shade that I totally forgot about:

Phillip Daniels.

Just to get your opinion on the matter, if Daniels comes back and is 100% do you see him back in a Redskins uniform next year? I know Blache is a big fan of his.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I like that you did not take offense by me disagreeing with you. There have been some very angry/sensitive people on here lately. You are not only smart but also a gentlemen. Keep up the good work.
We can agree to disagree.

Good thread and proof that we can all disagree on things and keep it civil.

[hooskins]

Good points about Monty, still not sold on him but not opposed to seeing more him to get a tougher push from the line.

As for Blache, I would agree with your previous points that he may have overblitzed during the first half when we got burned. Eli had great reads and he should've altered his game plan.

hopefully we aren't getting the egomaniac of Williams in Blache...But also aren't many coaches like this anways? They prefer certain players and others are in the doghouse.

I am not fully ready to believe Betts and Davis cannot contribute right away, just Zorn isn't really feeling them right now..

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

But also aren't many coaches like this anways? They prefer certain players and others are in the doghouse.

Yeah, I suppose. This never really occurred to me and I'm not sure why.

Blache does have a strange attachment to University of Georgia defensive linemen (Evans, Daniels, Golston). I was joking with one of my buddies that the Skins are going to draft Matthew Stafford, and then play him at defensive end.

[skinsfan69]

To me it looked like Eli made some perfect throws. The TD to Toomer was just perfect. Not too much anyone could've done about that. Smoot seemed to be in pretty good position.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, I suppose. This never really occurred to me and I'm not sure why.

Blache does have a strange attachment to University of Georgia defensive linemen (Evans, Daniels, Golston). I was joking with one of my buddies that the Skins are going to draft Matthew Stafford, and then play him at defensive end.

I guess he doesn't have much say in the draft process, otherwise we'd probably have Quentin Groves...

Do you guys think it says something about Blache's player evaluation that he can't seem to find the right mix of D-lineman to play together, even though it seems we have the pieces for a damn good line? As good as our secondary can be, it's annoying to think we have a potentially great front and can't find the right player combos....

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

To me it looked like Eli made some perfect throws. The TD to Toomer was just perfect. Not too much anyone could've done about that. Smoot seemed to be in pretty good position.

He is hella accurate and made some great throws in the conditions.

Still, when the ball's up there that long, I'd like to see somebody make a play on it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just to get your opinion on the matter, if Daniels comes back and is 100% do you see him back in a Redskins uniform next year? I know Blache is a big fan of his.

If he is still every bit as in good shape as he was this season, I think he's safe on this team. Like I said, I don't think Jason Taylor is a Blache guy and I think on this team, he's not a DE on first and second down, at least if Carter is healthy.

I think if it comes down to Daniels and Lorenzo Alexander in training camp next year for the 9th DL position, I think it's Daniels.

[70Chip]

The defense is definitely not the problem. The problem is the passing game and the inability to sustain drives. If we get a 5 yard penalty or lose two yards on a run, we can't recover and convert a first down. There is no explosiveness in this offense. It's overly cautious and it's infuriating to watch. Zorn doesn't even try to attack a defense until halfway through the third quarter.

Also, special teams is noticably down from the last four years, which is not surprising since most coaches will not spend as much time on it as Gibbs did. Gibbs was obsessed with special teams and rightfully so.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Here's a really interesting option for the three shade that I totally forgot about:

Phillip Daniels.

How could you forget Daniels! It will be interesting to see how Daniels and Buzbee recover from major injuries. I haven't heard any update lately on either one.

I am more and more impressed with Alexander though, he's solid.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How could you forget Daniels! It will be interesting to see how Daniels and Buzbee recover from major injuries. I haven't heard any update lately on either one.

I am more and more impressed with Alexander though, he's solid.

Alexander is definately the absolute prototype for a 4th defensive tackle. He cost the team nothing to draft or sign. He's good enough to start a game if you need him in that role. He's got situational value even if all three guys ahead of him are healthy AND he plays in the goal line packages on offense and on special teams.

I think we'd get killed on the interior if we had to start Alexander the whole year, but as the 4th DT, he's a pretty quality asset and definately worth a roster spot as long as he's one of the four best defensive tackles on the roster.

Buzbee probably got hurt by Daniels' injury more than anyone else because going into the year he had a legitimate chance to be what Demetric Evans has been for us this year. Unfortunately, Daniels injury caused us to go out and get Taylor, and the chances that Buzbee (even with age on his side) outlasts both Taylor and Daniels on the roster has to be pretty small.

[hagams]

Wow, good post GT. Too big for me to comprehend all of it at once. I'll come back later.