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Old 12-17-2008, 10:10 AM   #1
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Re: Could Holmgren Be the End Game?

I would love to have him in a Parcels type role as President but I am not on board with firing Zorn. Holmgren in charge of the whole organization and helping to mentor Zorn on the side would be a great situation.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:19 PM   #2
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I would love to have him in a Parcels type role as President but I am not on board with firing Zorn. Holmgren in charge of the whole organization and helping to mentor Zorn on the side would be a great situation.

Zorn is toast, unless he can perform miracles against the Eagles and 49ers. Why the hell do folks want to keep Zorn so bad? Continuity for continuity's sake has been done before. That is why we got stuck with Norv for 10 years. Do you fools want to get stuck with going 7-9 to 8-8 every year? His system is passe, and it has been figured out as a result of the WCO being featured by too many teams in the last 20 years. Also, what guy comes out in front of the press and tells them he must be the worst HC in the NFL? Stick a fork in the poor bastard. And why do you want Holmgren to come here to mentor Zorn(assuming Zorn somehow stays)? He had a short, but very sweet run with Brett and the Pack and a few good years with Seattle when Alexander was worth something as a RB. After that the Seahawks have sucked. Only thing that has kept them afloat is they are in the crappiest division in the NFL. According to ESPN a couple nights ago talking about coaches on the hot seat with the info they talked about with regards to Zorn, he looks like he is going to be in the unemployment line soon. Can't believe folks want to keep Zorn if Cowher looks like he is the heir apparent.
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:24 PM   #3
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"Can't believe folks want to keep Zorn if Cowher looks like he is the heir apparent"

Good Call Gus. I dont know either.

If anything lets hold Zorn as QB Coach to develop Campbell...because thats the only positive things hes done.
Is it possible for Zorn to JUST be QB Coach? ah.. probally not.

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Zorn is toast, unless he can perform miracles against the Eagles and 49ers. Why the hell do folks want to keep Zorn so bad? Continuity for continuity's sake has been done before. That is why we got stuck with Norv for 10 years. Do you fools want to get stuck with going 7-9 to 8-8 every year? His system is passe, and it has been figured out as a result of the WCO being featured by too many teams in the last 20 years. Also, what guy comes out in front of the press and tells them he must be the worst HC in the NFL? Stick a fork in the poor bastard. And why do you want Holmgren to come here to mentor Zorn(assuming Zorn somehow stays)? He had a short, but very sweet run with Brett and the Pack and a few good years with Seattle when Alexander was worth something as a RB. After that the Seahawks have sucked. Only thing that has kept them afloat is they are in the crappiest division in the NFL. According to ESPN a couple nights ago talking about coaches on the hot seat with the info they talked about with regards to Zorn, he looks like he is going to be in the unemployment line soon. Can't believe folks want to keep Zorn if Cowher looks like he is the heir apparent.
We have no idea what Zorn can do because he has only had 1 year. Thinking like that you would have fired Joe Gibbs in 1981...not that i am saying Zorn will ever be Gibbs. I think the Redskins biggest problems are in the front office and having an experienced guy like Holmgren there would help.

And what makes everyone think Cohwer will be so great with his next team? Is he going to bring the whole Pittsburgh front office with him? And Cowher is a pipe dream anyway because he will never work with Vinny as his personel man. Besides if Cohwer wanted the Redskins coaching job he would have taken it last year.
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We have no idea what Zorn can do because he has only had 1 year. Thinking like that you would have fired Joe Gibbs in 1981...not that i am saying Zorn will ever be Gibbs. I think the Redskins biggest problems are in the front office and having an experienced guy like Holmgren there would help.

And what makes everyone think Cohwer will be so great with his next team? Is he going to bring the whole Pittsburgh front office with him? And Cowher is a pipe dream anyway because he will never work with Vinny as his personel man. Besides if Cohwer wanted the Redskins coaching job he would have taken it last year.
gibbs went 8-8 his first year but finished strong winning 8 out of 11 zorn has done the opposite and i think the strong start was due to there being no film on him no the book is out
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