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Old 12-24-2008, 01:44 PM   #16
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Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC

I like it, keeping it in house before someone offers him a humungous contract
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:11 PM   #17
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When and if he gets the money, will he revert to free lancing and stupid personal fouls? He's at his best behavior right now because he wants the money, once he gets the money will he go back to his old ways? Stay tuned.
This is the thing that concerns me. Hopefully he has grown up and left the childish behavior that costs his team behind. But just in case, I would like to see some form of contract that would include behavior clauses and would not leave us in a financial bind should we decide to release him. That being said, if he has learned from his mistakes, I think he would be a nice long term addition to the team. Not that there are many, but one of our biggest deficiencies on defense is getting turnovers, and he is quite good at that.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:28 PM   #18
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This is the thing that concerns me. Hopefully he has grown up and left the childish behavior that costs his team behind. But just in case, I would like to see some form of contract that would include behavior clauses and would not leave us in a financial bind should we decide to release him. That being said, if he has learned from his mistakes, I think he would be a nice long term addition to the team. Not that there are many, but one of our biggest deficiencies on defense is getting turnovers, and he is quite good at that.
Agreed. We arent going to get him to sign a contract with less than 12-15M garaunteed, though... its just not going to happen. I think 7 years, 50M with a 12M signing bonus would be about right.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:52 PM   #19
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he'll get springs money because he's gone next year
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:31 PM   #20
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Hope they get this done for a reasonable price. Hall has been a great addition to our team. Adds that playmaker that we need.

Hopefully his past antics are over and hopefully he has matured. He is playing for a team he wants to be with so maybe that will help.
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:42 PM   #21
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Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC

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When and if he gets the money, will he revert to free lancing and stupid personal fouls? He's at his best behavior right now because he wants the money, once he gets the money will he go back to his old ways? Stay tuned.
I agree, I'm still not sold on hall, and I doubt I will be for a long time. I've noticed he gets burned quite a bit and I've seen his bs in Oakland and Atlanta. I'm not ready to jump with joy until I see consistence.
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:05 PM   #22
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Re: Skins in early contract talks with Hall to keep him in DC

I wouldn't be surprised if Rogers is traded for a 3rd round or lower pick due to the fact that he's signed for another year and then becomes a FA. He's had a solid season and might even command a 2nd rounder from some sucker.
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Its funny we bring in some guys and offer them a bag pay day and new deal and they don't pan out. We bring Hall in and offer him base pay and now we will have to pay more to keep him here. Hall might have been a good player to have offered an extension like the one plax got which we could have opted out of without a big cap hit but we might still be able to negotiate something that works for both parties.

Maybe Jerry Jones isn't crazy.
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:29 PM   #24
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I want Hall, but it ought to be a structured deal that guarantees a minimum and gives tons of incentives. The man wants to be a Redskin by his own word, we'll see what that really means.
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I feel like Hall has earned his job for next year with some solid play at corner, but I don't think he's earned anything past another look in 2009.
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:20 PM   #26
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I agree that CB is a position of need given Smoot's decline and the fact that Springs is not likely to return next year. However, giving Hall a gigantic contract that hinders our ability to improve in other areas is not the only way to address our CB issues....
But if we don't pay up and he gets away, we'd still have to sign or draft someone else. Hoping a new guy can come in and produce equally as well as DH is somewhat of a gamble since we already know what we have with Hall in Blache's system.

The only way I say no is if he asks for Antoine Winfield type money.
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:22 PM   #27
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I agree, I'm still not sold on hall, and I doubt I will be for a long time. I've noticed he gets burned quite a bit and I've seen his bs in Oakland and Atlanta. I'm not ready to jump with joy until I see consistence.

When has he been burned with us? The guy I see getting burned is Fred Smoot.
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Old 12-24-2008, 06:53 PM   #28
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When has he been burned with us? The guy I see getting burned is Fred Smoot.
Twice in the Eagles game, he was lucky DeSean Jackson dropped them and I've seen it in other games also.
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:26 PM   #29
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younger is better! Drop Smoot and Springs and sign a third Cb and we might even catch some INT's next year!

Overall an upgrade...now we need to do that at other positions!
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When has he been burned with us? The guy I see getting burned is Fred Smoot.
The Bengals receivers did a number on him as well.

Hall is what he is. He's not a great player, but if you throw it to him, he'll catch it and return it the other way. Rogers is much better in coverage, espically zone, but he's a good bet to drop it. They would make an interesting duo, that's for sure.

Smoot's pretty useless, though. He's like the worst of Rogers and the worst of Hall rolled up into one player.
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