Would you accept Michael Vick on the Redskins?

Schneed10 · 01-06-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

so you don't think people can be rehabbed? or change? if you don't give people a second chance, they just continue going down the wrong path, creating headaches for normal, productive members of society

I think some people can be rehabbed, but that's not the point. I support giving employers the option to decide who they want to give that second chance to. If they don't want to give that second chance, they shouldn't have to.

GMScud makes great points, there is gray area galore. I'm of the same mind that I can overlook a DWI offense for certain positions, while someone convicted of aggravated assault probably wouldn't stand a chance with me.

There are positions where you just don't want to take the chance. If I'm hiring someone to clean the bathrooms of my office building, I probably don't care if they've been convicted of drug charges in the past. If I'm a car dealership hiring a car salesmen, I absolutely want someone with a 100% clean record.

Hog1 · 01-06-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

It seems like there is an ass-load of bickering and negativity going on around here in multiple threads lately. Couple that with the shitty cold rain we're having in the DC area, and it's really making my Tuesday a downer.

That's a REAL shame...........75, and Sunny

Hog1 · 01-06-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

so you don't think people can be rehabbed? or change? if you don't give people a second chance, they just continue going down the wrong path, creating headaches for normal, productive members of society

ALSO, I think PC and possibly some Federal laws may mandate that as a convicted felon (having served your due) you deserve the same consideration as the next candidate for a job. In reality, in all but a small percentage of circumstances.....the AIN'T happening

GMScud · 01-06-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

That's a REAL shame...........75, and Sunny

I know all about it. My mom and stepdad are at their place on Siesta Key right now and have been bragging about the weather. Plus I lived in Gainesville for 8 years. I miss the Florida sunshine today.

Hog1 · 01-06-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I know all about it. My mom and stepdad are at their place on Siesta Key right now and have been bragging about the weather. Plus I lived in Gainesville for 8 years. I miss the Florida sunshine today.

..........sorry........

firstdown · 01-06-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

ALSO, I think PC and possibly some Federal laws may mandate that as a convicted felon (having served your due) you deserve the same consideration as the next candidate for a job. In reality, in all but a small percentage of circumstances.....the AIN'T happening

All job applications ask if you been conivicted of a crime or felony so I don't think thats the case. Some businesses won't hire people if they have bad credit or financial problems.

GMScud · 01-06-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

All job applications ask if you been conivicted of a crime or felony so I don't think thats the case. Some businesses won't hire people if they have bad credit or financial problems.

Very true. When I was working in mortgage banking, my company did a background check obviously, and I also had to sign a consent form allowing them to run my credit. This is fairly common practice in the financial sector. It makes sense. I wouldn't want to hire someone to handle/advise on financial matters if they can't even keep their own stuff in order.

skinsfan69 · 01-06-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think some people can be rehabbed, but that's not the point. I support giving employers the option to decide who they want to give that second chance to. If they don't want to give that second chance, they shouldn't have to.

GMScud makes great points, there is gray area galore. I'm of the same mind that I can overlook a DWI offense for certain positions, while someone convicted of aggravated assault probably wouldn't stand a chance with me.

There are positions where you just don't want to take the chance. If I'm hiring someone to clean the bathrooms of my office building, I probably don't care if they've been convicted of drug charges in the past. If I'm a car dealership hiring a car salesmen, I absolutely want someone with a 100% clean record.

Great point. I doubt Vick will ever be a starting QB in the NFL again cause it's so much more than throwing a football and reading defenses. There is the business side and your QB has to be marketable. No one says Vick can't work a 9-5.

GMScud · 01-06-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think some people can be rehabbed, but that's not the point. I support giving employers the option to decide who they want to give that second chance to. If they don't want to give that second chance, they shouldn't have to.

GMScud makes great points, there is gray area galore. I'm of the same mind that I can overlook a DWI offense for certain positions, while someone convicted of aggravated assault probably wouldn't stand a chance with me.

There are positions where you just don't want to take the chance. If I'm hiring someone to clean the bathrooms of my office building, I probably don't care if they've been convicted of drug charges in the past. If I'm a car dealership hiring a car salesmen, I absolutely want someone with a 100% clean record.

I wouldn't hire Michael Vick to clean the toilets in my office.

44ever · 01-06-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I wouldn't hire Michael Vick to clean the toilets in my office.

I'm with ya brother!

44ever · 01-06-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

That's a REAL shame...........75, and Sunny

Hog. I lived in SW Fl for 30 years. I know the Naples area very well. Nice.

I can't feel to sorry for these guys as Im now living in upstate NY. Talk about friggin cold.

Enjoy your weather!

KLHJ2 · 01-06-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I wouldn't hire Michael Vick to clean the toilets in my office.

Neither would I, but I would sure as hell hire him if he could average 1 TD per game over the course of the season. Thats an improvement over what we got.

Honestly, I think that he would be one hell of a Punt Returner/ offensive weapon. People can say what they want about ARE but he is not as versataille as people think.

DynamiteRave · 01-06-2009, 02:15 PM

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Neither would I, but I would sure as hell hire him if he could average 1 TD per game over the course of the season. Thats an improvement over what we got.

Honestly, I think that he would be one hell of a Punt Returner/ offensive weapon. People can say what they want about ARE but he is not as versataille as people think.

I thought that what we were saving Colt Brennan for?

As for Vick no way. Wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole.

GMScud · 01-06-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry

Neither would I, but I would sure as hell hire him if he could average 1 TD per game over the course of the season. Thats an improvement over what we got.

Honestly, I think that he would be one hell of a Punt Returner/ offensive weapon. People can say what they want about ARE but he is not as versataille as people think.

As a QB? Because any non-QB who can avg 16 TDs a year is not only going to have a job, but will likely also be a pro-bowler with a phat contract. IMO Vick's future in this league (if he even has one) is not at QB.

Hog1 · 01-06-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 44ever

Hog. I lived in SW Fl for 30 years. I know the Naples area very well. Nice.

I can't feel to sorry for these guys as Im now living in upstate NY. Talk about friggin cold.

Enjoy your weather!

We'll be paying for it this summer!

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