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[Miller101]

Like it or hate it.............he's right! Like how he comes forward with it or not.............he's still right. Zorn is an idiot! Plain and simple. And I don't mind Portis coming out and saying that in so many words. I mean, you have Betts, Portis, Sellers, and one of the biggest offensive lines in the league. This team is built to run the football! And it always has been. At least for as long as I've been alive. How can you go from running the ball, the thing that is actually scoring more than 10 points a game, to throwing the ball? Why fix something thats not broken? Its dumb! And you keep on with it for 7 straight games? Putting up 10 points a game!??!? Blaming execution for your losing streak? By doing those things, Zorn asked for players like Portis to come out and say the things that he has said.

Hopefully, Zorn a little more humble now and has listened to his players and his coaches.....................................I just can't help but think that Buges ripped Zorn behind closed doors............................Against San Fran Zorn went back to running the ball 30 times a game we put up over 20 points and almost beat them. And that was great to see! An offense that scores! It took two months, but.................hopefully Zorn has it figured out! We'll find out next year as it would really suck if we win 5 or 6 games; especially with the schedule that we have next year!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Miller101

Like it or hate it.............he's right! Like how he comes forward with it or not.............he's still right. Zorn is an idiot! Plain and simple. And I don't mind Portis coming out and saying that in so many words. I mean, you have Betts, Portis, Sellers, and one of the biggest offensive lines in the league. This team is built to run the football! And it always has been. At least for as long as I've been alive. How can you go from running the ball, the thing that is actually scoring more than 10 points a game, to throwing the ball? Why fix something thats not broken? Its dumb! And you keep on with it for 7 straight games? Putting up 10 points a game!??!? Blaming execution for your losing streak? By doing those things, Zorn asked for players like Portis to come out and say the things that he has said.

Hopefully, Zorn a little more humble now and has listened to his players and his coaches.....................................I just can't help but think that Buges ripped Zorn behind closed doors............................Against San Fran Zorn went back to running the ball 30 times a game we put up over 20 points and almost beat them. And that was great to see! An offense that scores! It took two months, but.................hopefully Zorn has it figured out! We'll find out next year as it would really suck if we win 5 or 6 games; especially with the schedule that we have next year!

1) Read Schneed's Post #3 before you make the statement that Zorn is an idiot. I would take Zorn's experience/opinion (over 35 years) over Portis' any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Portis isn't the most cerebral guy on the team, he responds to everything emotionally.

2) Our offensive line is the smallest in our division: Average weight of OLs in NFC East: Eagles 330, Cowboys 327, Giants 315, Skins 302. By no means is our OL a "grind it out, smashmouth" OL. The average age of the starters, (with Jansen in) is 32 years old. Over a 16 game season of pounding an older, smaller OL will break down, that's what happened. Unfortunately this isn't the Hogs of 80-92.

3) Have you ever called plays for an offense with a poor OL up front....my guess is no. It's not fun and every playcall, even what should be simple ones, is difficult.

4) My guess is Buges isn't ripping anyone, it's his unit that was the primary reason for the 2-6 drop-off at the end of the season. Not that it's his fault, but IMO it's time for Buges to retire. We need to bring in an OL coach with WCO experience. We certainly need to retool the OL. We desperately need youth/size. C, and a young stud LT would be my primary targets. Move Samuels to the right side, he's having trouble with speed off the edge. Hopefully Rinehart develops and between, Kendall, Jansen, Heyer we have serviceable back-ups at C, G, T.

Portis needs to STFU and just play football, he's getting $ 5.6M in 2009 and $ 10M in 2010. Do your job, let the coaches do theirs. Nothing helps a coaching staff more than a highly paid veteran criticizing and whining to the media about internal dirty laundry every week.....

[horse]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

1) Read Schneed's Post #3 before you make the statement that Zorn is an idiot. I would take Zorn's experience/opinion (over 35 years) over Portis' any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Portis isn't the most cerebral guy on the team, he responds to everything emotionally.

2) Our offensive line is the smallest in our division: Average weight of OLs in NFC East: Eagles 330, Cowboys 327, Giants 315, Skins 302. By no means is our OL a "grind it out, smashmouth" OL. The average age of the starters, (with Jansen in) is 32 years old. Over a 16 game season of pounding an older, smaller OL will break down, that's what happened. Unfortunately this isn't the Hogs of 80-92.

3) Have you ever called plays for an offense with a poor OL up front....my guess is no. It's not fun and every playcall, even what should be simple ones, is difficult.

4) My guess is Buges isn't ripping anyone, it's his unit that was the primary reason for the 2-6 drop-off at the end of the season. Not that it's his fault, but IMO it's time for Buges to retire. We need to bring in an OL coach with WCO experience. We certainly need to retool the OL. We desperately need youth/size. C, and a young stud LT would be my primary targets. Move Samuels to the right side, he's having trouble with speed off the edge. Hopefully Rinehart develops and between, Kendall, Jansen, Heyer we have serviceable back-ups at C, G, T.

Portis needs to STFU and just play football, he's getting $ 5.6M in 2009 and $ 10M in 2010. Do your job, let the coaches do theirs. Nothing helps a coaching staff more than a highly paid veteran criticizing and whining to the media about internal dirty laundry every week.....

I agree with alot of what you said, But what if the O-line and Portis did'nt get hurt we may have stayed where we were. There's alot of woulda shoulda coulda, But our season must be thought of as a success with all the things we had to overcome new coach, new system, tough division. And Samuels was hurt in the end of the season, He's a pro-bowler and one of the best LT's in the league. I would like to see Heyer start at RT he impressed down the strech.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

1) Read Schneed's Post #3 before you make the statement that Zorn is an idiot. I would take Zorn's experience/opinion (over 35 years) over Portis' any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Portis isn't the most cerebral guy on the team, he responds to everything emotionally.

2) Our offensive line is the smallest in our division: Average weight of OLs in NFC East: Eagles 330, Cowboys 327, Giants 315, Skins 302. By no means is our OL a "grind it out, smashmouth" OL. The average age of the starters, (with Jansen in) is 32 years old. Over a 16 game season of pounding an older, smaller OL will break down, that's what happened. Unfortunately this isn't the Hogs of 80-92.

3) Have you ever called plays for an offense with a poor OL up front....my guess is no. It's not fun and every playcall, even what should be simple ones, is difficult.

4) My guess is Buges isn't ripping anyone, it's his unit that was the primary reason for the 2-6 drop-off at the end of the season. Not that it's his fault, but IMO it's time for Buges to retire. We need to bring in an OL coach with WCO experience. We certainly need to retool the OL. We desperately need youth/size. C, and a young stud LT would be my primary targets. Move Samuels to the right side, he's having trouble with speed off the edge. Hopefully Rinehart develops and between, Kendall, Jansen, Heyer we have serviceable back-ups at C, G, T.

Portis needs to STFU and just play football, he's getting $ 5.6M in 2009 and $ 10M in 2010. Do your job, let the coaches do theirs. Nothing helps a coaching staff more than a highly paid veteran criticizing and whining to the media about internal dirty laundry every week.....

Well said Sammy. You've said it better than I could have. Great Post!