2009 Free Agents

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by #21Taylor4Ever

Sign Jordan Gross, Terrell Suggs, Darren Sproles, and Rob Bironas

You know football has a salary cap don't you??

[Trample the Elderly]

How about this? One or both of these guys.
Jordan Cross
Karlos Dansby

and draft as many of these guys that we can:
Alex Mack, Duke Robinson, Everette Brown, Brandon Spikes.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

You know football has a salary cap don't you??

Well this is the team that miraculously goes from being several millions under the cap to having enough money to sign draft picks and free agents.

[Paintrain]

What's Jordan Gross' incentive for coming to DC? He's a LT who we'd want to move to RT, is going to garner LT money and the position somewhere else. We're better off drafting a LT out of college and converting him with the expectation he'd replace Samuels in a couple of years.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What's Jordan Gross' incentive for coming to DC? He's a LT who we'd want to move to RT, is going to garner LT money and the position somewhere else. We're better off drafting a LT out of college and converting him with the expectation he'd replace Samuels in a couple of years.

I don't see Carolina letting Gross go, and like you say he's a LT who would have to move to RT here. It doesn't make much sense.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't see Carolina letting Gross go, and like you say he's a LT who would have to move to RT here. It doesn't make much sense.

Will they have enough money to keep him and Peppers?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Will they have enough money to keep him and Peppers?

Good question, I guess it would help if we knew their cap situation.

Anybody?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Good question, I guess it would help if we knew their cap situation.

Anybody?

It's feasible, but they could opt to let Peppers walk anyway because they have bigger plans for that defense.

But, yeah, flat out, they can fit both those guys under the cap if they really want to. They just found two bookend tackles, theres no way Gross is getting away from them, franchise tag or else.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What's Jordan Gross' incentive for coming to DC? He's a LT who we'd want to move to RT, is going to garner LT money and the position somewhere else. We're better off drafting a LT out of college and converting him with the expectation he'd replace Samuels in a couple of years.

What's stopping us from signing Gross, put him at LT and move Samuels to RT? This would allow us to draft inside offensive linemen (Guard or Center) and have two great players at tackle.

Here's a story from the Raleigh News & Observer regarding the Panther's offseason:

Stinging loss leads to cloudy future for Panthers - NFL Wire - News & Observer

They make it sound like it may not necessarily possible to keep both Gross and Peppers...

The quarterback situation is just one of many the Panthers must address in what will be a critical offseason for the club. Two of Carolina's best players -- defensive end Julius Peppers and offensive tackle Jordan Gross -- will be unrestricted free agents in March and figure to command a ton of interest and money if allowed to hit the open market. With seven others also set to enter free agency and not a wealth of salary-cap space at the moment, maintaining the locker-room chemistry that played a big part in the Panthers' resurgence will be another challenge for the front office to face.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What's Jordan Gross' incentive for coming to DC? He's a LT who we'd want to move to RT, is going to garner LT money and the position somewhere else. We're better off drafting a LT out of college and converting him with the expectation he'd replace Samuels in a couple of years.

Samuels could get to a few more Pro Bowls if he moved to RT and with Gross in town he could move over.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Samuels could get to a few more Pro Bowls if he moved to RT and with Gross in town he could move over.

I guess the trick is whether the team has the cap room to make such a big signing. An offensive like consisting of Gross and Samuels at tackles, a stud guard or center picked up at #13th, and two other veterans, would make a decent line.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Samuels could get to a few more Pro Bowls if he moved to RT and with Gross in town he could move over.

FYI, for some reason only LT's get selected to the Pro Bowl. Samuels would likely not see another Pro Bowl if he were moved to RT. With that being said, I am not opposed to the idea of Samuels on the right side. He usually plays the right side when he goes to the Pro Bowl.

For the Skins to move him to the right, we would need to add one hell of a tackle on the left this offseason. In reality I cannot see us moving him for at least another season, but it would be great if we could. I concur that Gross could be the man to move him, but I doubt that we will get him.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by Angry

FYI, for some reason only LT's get selected to the Pro Bowl. Samuels would likely not see another Pro Bowl if he were moved to RT. With that being said, I am not opposed to the idea of Samuels on the right side. He usually plays the right side when he goes to the Pro Bowl.

I was surprised to see that you are right. Jon Runyon (2002), Lincoln Kennedy (2000, 2001, 2002), Korey Stringer (2000) and Erik Williams (1999) are the few I found in the past decade.
I was thinking of Joe Jacoby when I suggested it but despite how great he was on the right, his only Pro Bowls came when he was at LT (probably due to the exposure of going against Lawrence Taylor).
If (and this is my dream) we can sign Jordan Gross I think the move still makes sense but Samuels probably wouldn't make many if any more Pro Bowls. Of course, IMO his name got him there this year more than his on field production.