If you were Vinny, what would you do to keep your job?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Of course, the downside is you're turning over at the following starting positions:

- OLB, Washington
- CB, Springs
- DE, Taylor
- DT, Griffin
- RT, Jansen/Heyer

You don't really believe that Springs, Washington, and Griffin will be healthy enough to make a difference next year, do you? They'll each play four games healthy, four games hurt, and miss eight games. That is not acceptable.

Jansen/Heyer = Disaster at RT. You may fear too much change, but surely you would agree that this position must be improved, wouldn't you?

Taylor would need to play much, much better next season to be worth the money. I seriously doubt that he will.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

You don't really believe that Springs, Washington, and Griffin will be healthy enough to make a difference next year, do you? They'll each play four games healthy, four games hurt, and miss eight games. That is not acceptable.

Jansen/Heyer = Disaster at RT. You may fear too much change, but surely you would agree that this position must be improved, wouldn't you?

Taylor would need to play much, much better next season to be worth the money. I seriously doubt that he will.

First on RT, I totally agree an improvement is needed. Jansen can't pass block and Heyer can't run block. Simple as that. That's one position where I'd absolutely make my move, and would probably use the first rounder on it.

On Washington I totally agree he's too injury prone and not effective enough. That's why I have the team cutting him in my cap thread.

On Springs, I don't agree. Springs was STILL the best CB on our team last year when healthy, and I don't see any chronic medical conditions that would lead me to believe he'll be unhealthy next year. Remember, just last year he played all 16 games for us. If you have arthritic knees or something that will nag you all season, that's one thing. But to have an acute calf injury to a guy who stays in shape with the best of them and to say he'll be hurt all year - there's no reason that's accurate.

On Griffin, they gu misses a few games each season, has for the past five years. I could go either way on him. On one hand it's not like he's missing tons of time, but on the other he does get hit with nagging things which he plays through, but reduces his effectiveness. But you can't argue with his ability to clog running lanes, he's still a big reason we ended up doing so well against the run. I really don't see how a Rocky Bernard is an upgrade, other than the health factor.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

First on RT, I totally agree an improvement is needed. Jansen can't pass block and Heyer can't run block. Simple as that. That's one position where I'd absolutely make my move, and would probably use the first rounder on it.

On Washington I totally agree he's too injury prone and not effective enough. That's why I have the team cutting him in my cap thread.

On Springs, I don't agree. Springs was STILL the best CB on our team last year when healthy, and I don't see any chronic medical conditions that would lead me to believe he'll be unhealthy next year. Remember, just last year he played all 16 games for us. If you have arthritic knees or something that will nag you all season, that's one thing. But to have an acute calf injury to a guy who stays in shape with the best of them and to say he'll be hurt all year - there's no reason that's accurate.

On Griffin, they gu misses a few games each season, has for the past five years. I could go either way on him. On one hand it's not like he's missing tons of time, but on the other he does get hit with nagging things which he plays through, but reduces his effectiveness. But you can't argue with his ability to clog running lanes, he's still a big reason we ended up doing so well against the run. I really don't see how a Rocky Bernard is an upgrade, other than the health factor.

Was not Heyer not the starting RT when in the begining of the season when we could run the ball and winning games?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Was not Heyer not the starting RT when in the begining of the season when we could run the ball and winning games?

No, Jansen was starting when the running game took off and Heyer couldn't get back into the lineup.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

First on RT, I totally agree an improvement is needed. Jansen can't pass block and Heyer can't run block. Simple as that. That's one position where I'd absolutely make my move, and would probably use the first rounder on it.

Or sign Vernon Carey. But yeah RT is definitely an area that needs improvement. Jansen isn't going to get any better, and Heyer is probably destined to be a strong backup

On Washington I totally agree he's too injury prone and not effective enough. That's why I have the team cutting him in my cap thread.

Agreed, but they are really hurting in the LB department. I'd like to see them go after Dansby in free agency. Short of that, I do like Sean Witherspoon out of Missouri as a mid-round pick if we can secure some extra picks. Getting him would mean moving Rocky to the SAM, which could actually be the best fit for him anyway. It will be interesting to see what the Redskins might attempt to do with Alfred Fincher.

On Springs, I don't agree. Springs was STILL the best CB on our team last year when healthy, and I don't see any chronic medical conditions that would lead me to believe he'll be unhealthy next year. Remember, just last year he played all 16 games for us. If you have arthritic knees or something that will nag you all season, that's one thing. But to have an acute calf injury to a guy who stays in shape with the best of them and to say he'll be hurt all year - there's no reason that's accurate.

The team is better when he's on the field, whether it's at safety or at cornerback. I think his fragility is overrated, but we do need to start taking into account his age.

On Griffin, they gu misses a few games each season, has for the past five years. I could go either way on him. On one hand it's not like he's missing tons of time, but on the other he does get hit with nagging things which he plays through, but reduces his effectiveness. But you can't argue with his ability to clog running lanes, he's still a big reason we ended up doing so well against the run. I really don't see how a Rocky Bernard is an upgrade, other than the health factor.

I wish we had another strong interior defensive linemen to line up with Montgomery as the starter then make either Daniels or Griffin the backup. A solid veteran who can play a few downs a game but not someone we need to count on to carry us for the majority of the game or season

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Taylor would need to play much, much better next season to be worth the money. I seriously doubt that he will.

So restructure him.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So restructure him.

Why would JT want to restructure? There's nothing in it for him except less $.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

Why would JT want to restructure? There's nothing in it for him except less $.

He's already admitted he's not worth $8M, so the Skins should either cut him or make play for less, or give him something like a 2 year deal worth $8M so he can at least have a reasonable cap figure and still earn his dough.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

Why would JT want to restructure? There's nothing in it for him except less $.

Nice understanding of the salary cap you got there, Irish. Three year deal with $8 million up front to sign would get his cap number down to about $3 mill a year.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Nice understanding of the salary cap you got there, Irish. Three year deal with $8 million up front to sign would get his cap number down to about $3 mill a year.

My point is what does JT care about what his cap number is. He doesnt, the Skins FO and cap geeks like you do. All JT likely cares about is his paycheck and I just dont see him accepting any kind of reduction. You are assuming he will restructure out of the goodness of his heart so he can keep playing. Did you ever consider he might say thanks but no thanks and head off to Hollywood and an acting career.