Brian Cushing

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'll change my name to ScudSmack for a week in your honor

I'm still not 100% sold on Oher. But I won't complain if we got him

In the last 8 or 9 seasons, we've only used two picks before the 5th round on lineman - Reinhart and Dockery (ZERO on D-line). That's deplorable. I'll be dancing a friggin jig if we draft him. He's projected top 15 by most "experts."

I'd probably rather have Jason Smith, but really, who are we to be picky? The fact that we're even considering lineman in the first round is just awesome.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GMScud

In the last 8 or 9 seasons, we've only used two picks before the 5th round on lineman - Reinhart and Dockery (ZERO on D-line). That's deplorable. I'll be dancing a friggin jig if we draft him. He's projected top 15 by most "experts."

I'd probably rather have Jason Smith, but really, who are we to be picky? The fact that we're even considering lineman in the first round is just awesome.

What do you know about Jason Smith as a Run Blocker because the impression I get from reading profiles make me think that he's more of a finesse guy rather then a mauler.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'll change my name to ScudSmack for a week in your honor

I'm still not 100% sold on Oher. But I won't complain if we got him

Seeing how Vinny has stated he wants more draft picks. How feasible is it that we'll use the first and not trade down. If we've only got four then how does Vinny get more? Wouldn't it be safe to say we might trade a guy for a second rounder this year and a third next year? I can also see him trading down to get more picks. Is seven picks consisting of OT, C, OG, OLB, with a DB and or a DE sound right? Most of the posts and talking heads seem to agree that we all NEED these positions and this would make the most sense in getting them?

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Seeing how Vinny has stated he wants more draft picks. How feasible is it that we'll use the first and not trade down. If we've only got four then how does Vinny get more? Wouldn't it be safe to say we might trade a guy for a second rounder this year and a third next year? I can also see him trading down to get more picks. Is seven picks consisting of OT, C, OG, OLB, with a DB and or a DE sound right? Most of the posts and talking heads seem to agree that we all NEED these positions and this would make the most sense in getting them?

We would have to trade someone like Randle El or Moss to get any significant extra picks in the draft. Some have said Rogers or Landry in the recent past, but those guys contribute more than Randle El. I don't like trading down. The quality of the players goes to pot after the 2nd-3rd rounds. After that all you are getting is practice squad fodder for the most part. Of course you might get a couple keepers, but with our recent past in the draft I hghly doubt it.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Seeing how Vinny has stated he wants more draft picks. How feasible is it that we'll use the first and not trade down. If we've only got four then how does Vinny get more? Wouldn't it be safe to say we might trade a guy for a second rounder this year and a third next year? I can also see him trading down to get more picks. Is seven picks consisting of OT, C, OG, OLB, with a DB and or a DE sound right? Most of the posts and talking heads seem to agree that we all NEED these positions and this would make the most sense in getting them?

Thus the speculation we will trade Moss or someone else to gain picks. At first the idea didn't seem realistic because who would we trade w/ the value of a 2nd rounder that we don't really need? The idea of trading Los for instance seems rather tarded being that we used the 1st round pick to acquire him and we would have to replace him w/ a quality starter (meaning either our 1st round pick - again - or pay someone a boatload through FA). But then I heard Moss as a possible trade and started to warm up to the idea. It's a risk because it means one of the new WR additions must produce for us in '09. I think i'm ok with taking that risk but i'm glad the coaches make the decision. Also heard Horton as a trade possibility, which a lot of Warpathers don't agree with evidently, but i think it makes sense if we're gonna have Los/Hall for starting corners and Landry/Springs for starting safeties (from what I understand Blache and the who's who really like Springs and want to retain him). Bottom line is a trade of Moss or Horton or both guys in a package deal to get an even higher pick seems like a good idea now IMO.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Seeing how Vinny has stated he wants more draft picks. How feasible is it that we'll use the first and not trade down. If we've only got four then how does Vinny get more? Wouldn't it be safe to say we might trade a guy for a second rounder this year and a third next year? I can also see him trading down to get more picks. Is seven picks consisting of OT, C, OG, OLB, with a DB and or a DE sound right? Most of the posts and talking heads seem to agree that we all NEED these positions and this would make the most sense in getting them?

If we use the 13th overall pick (on Cushing or anyone else) and don't trade down, I would suspect it will be after Carlos Rogers has been traded for one or more picks. Not saying I want to see Carlos go (I'd rather keep him and trade down), but if we do draft at 13, that's how I think it will go down.

[Dirtbag59]

Double post, my bad.

[Whiteboi_J]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Raji may not even make it past the Bengals at #6

Lot of speculation at this point, but from all I've heard if the draft were today I could see something like

1. Lions-Andre Smith
2. Rams-Eugene Monroe
3. Chiefs-Aaron Curry
4. Seahawks-Michael Crabtree
5. Browns-Malcolm Jenkins
6. Bengals-BJ Raji
7. Raiders-Percy Harvin
8. Jaguars-Jeremy Maclin
9. Packers-Jason Smith
10. 49ers-Mark Sanchez
11. Bills-Brian Orakpo
12. Broncos-Everette Brown

Wich drops Oher into our lap, or the intriguing possibility of Stafford who we definitely don't want (I don't think) but could possibly leverage. The wildcard is that 6-8 spot, because all of those teams could be eyeing a OL there.

2 OT will go in the 6-8 spots, packers go CB, and 49ers go D..i think BJ Raji will be there at 10 and i think the broncos go Maulagula if he's havin' a monster week like everyone is saying

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Whiteboi_J

2 OT will go in the 6-8 spots, packers go CB, and 49ers go D..i think BJ Raji will be there at 10 and i think the broncos go Maulagula if he's havin' a monster week like everyone is saying

I haven't been hearing that Rey (I've given up trying to spell his last name) is having a monster week

I don't think the Niners go D.

[The Goat]

I watched all 5+ minutes of the Cushing clip and have to say I wasn't amazed. I noticed he regularly "loses" his legs when tackling, using his mass to drag down the RB. First off that won't fly in the NFL where backs are so big and strong they can run through someone dragging them down, but my 2nd concern is whether Cushing has the speed to chase down a speedy back i.e. is he losing his legs because he's forced to dive for the RB instead of running through him? Also, on the recovery vs Notre Dame it looked like Cushing was caught from behind from a guy who started far back and had to cover a lot of distance. Was the kid from ND lightning quick or again is Cushing just lacking top end speed?

[The Goat]

oh yeah, and his durability is rated below average. How the hell does that translate into a 13 overall pick? For one thing he'd be replacing a guy who's only real drawback is durability.

...I'm just not sold this is the guy we want @ 13. I say let somebody else take the risk on him so early but if we trade down/get more picks from trading player(s) then give him a chance in the 2nd round.

[Trample the Elderly]

The simple fact that we honestly believe that the Skins are going to draft again is great news in my book. Even if they don't trade and don't get anymore picks. If they improve on last years draft then we'll get two productive players (perhaps the first pick) that will start.

[WaldSkins]

I hope the board does turn out the way Smootsmack has it because then we won't take Brian Cushings.

[SmootSmack]

We could also trade picks in future years

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We could also trade picks in future years

Please if you know something horrible keep it to yourself.