New contracts for Andre Carter and Randle El

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by gaudiomatt

Great Start to not cutting Springs, Washington, Taylor and Daniels. If we cut all of these non performers we have no cap issues. Cerrattos insanity continues.

Yes, it certainly makes sense to cut a starting LB, starting CB, and two potential starting DEs with no replacement signed or in-house. What a dumb-ass Cerrato is.

What type of leverage would the Skins be giving Hall if they cut Springs now? That one move could cost the organization $ 10-15M additional in Hall's contract because we lose the leverage of being able to walk away from Hall if the price tag gets too high. What if we can't draft a DE or get one in FA? Cutting Taylor and Daniels now would leave us in pretty bad shape, correct.

I'm not saying these moves shouldn't be made, ultimately they'll clear $ 21M + in cap space, but they need to be timed correctly, FA doesn't open until March 1 and we must be under the cap by Feb 27. The draft is the next step. We can also delay dead-cap hits on these guys after June 1. A restructure/extension for AC, I've got no issue with, ARE I think is already overpaid, but based on his contract no way he is released until after the 2010 season. Understand the business side of things before you make the "Cerrato insanity" remark.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Yes, it certainly makes sense to cut a starting LB, starting CB, and two potential starting DEs with no replacement signed or in-house. What a dumb-ass Cerrato is.

What type of leverage would the Skins be giving Hall is they cut Springs now? That one move could cost the organization $ 10-15M additional in Hall's contract because we lose the leverage of being able to walk away from Hall if the price tag gets too high.

What if we can't draft a DE or get one in FA? Cutting Taylor and Daniels now would leave us in pretty bad shape, correct. I'm not saying these moves shouldn't be made, but understand the business side of things before you make the "Cerrato insanity" remark.

Wise points all around. I'd only remark that cutting Daniels and Taylor would leave us shallow at end, in terms on an injury putting an untested replacement in the spotlight, but keep in mind for most of '08 it was Evans and Carter starting and they we're serviceable.

... i'm just looking ahead and thinking that if the rumors about Marcus are true we're facing a much bigger issue at OLB than at DE even if Daniels and Taylor are cut.

[Nflnick11]

Now this creates more money to spend on hall and maybe a really good free agent like haynesworth or peppers, or max starks...

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Wise points all around. I'd only remark that cutting Daniels and Taylor would leave us shallow at end, in terms on an injury putting an untested replacement in the spotlight, but keep in mind for most of '08 it was Evans and Carter starting and they we're serviceable.

I agree with you completely, that's the whole point of the restructure of ARE & AC. The FO is buying time and giving the Skins options in FA & the draft. With the two restructures we aren't forcing our hand on a specific position. We have leverage, we don't need to get into a bidding war for a particular guy or give up picks to move up to fill a glaring need. If we nail down a better replacement in FA or the draft, then Taylor and/or Daniels are cut. If not, we hold on to them. To your point, if we lock up Dansby (doubtful) or a better OLB in FA or the draft then goodbye Washington. But to make these moves before we have a better option is the true insanity.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I agree with you completely, that's the whole point of the restructure of ARE & AC. The FO is buying time and giving the Skins options in FA & the draft. With the two restructures we aren't forcing our hand on a specific position. We have leverage, we don't need to get into a bidding war for a particular guy or give up picks to move up to fill a glaring need. If we nail down a better replacement in FA or the draft, then Taylor and/or Daniels are cut. If not, we hold on to them. To your point, if we lock up Dansby (doubtful) or a better OLB in FA or the draft then goodbye Washington. But to make these moves before we have a better option is the true insanity.

ahh a little bit of sanity goes a long way