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Old 02-27-2009, 11:39 AM   #1
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Bills fans I know are the exact opposite of Redskins fans. It pisses them off that the team doesn't spend any money
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:49 AM   #2
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Bills fans I know are the exact opposite of Redskins fans. It pisses them off that the team doesn't spend any money
Pretty much, and I dont really blame them for it... they really are the exact opposite. I think its a pretty poor run organization as well... they try to build through the draft, which is how you build a team...but they dont draft very well, and they are afraid to get any big name free agents to plug holes to try to get them over the hump...

There really needs to be a happy medium with all teams..we're on the far side one way, they're on the far side the other way... alot of it I'm sure has to do with their market and location...
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:16 PM   #3
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I'm in line to get my cup of Kool Aid. Brink D-Docks back home. 70Chip, baby!

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Old 02-27-2009, 12:27 PM   #4
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Dockery In Detroit (So Tempted To Call This Dr. Detroit) - Redskins Insider

Any quality free agent who would even consider detroit doesnt care about winning. this makes me question docks desire. I certainly would not overpay for him 1 cent.
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Old 02-27-2009, 12:33 PM   #5
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Any quality free agent who would even consider detroit doesnt care about winning. this makes me question docks desire. I certainly would not overpay for him 1 cent.
I wouldn't go that far. They have a rabid fan base, great facilities, and a new head coach. He's probably just doing his due diligence as far as contract offers go.

Just b/c he wasn't immediately on Redskin One for a visit to Ashburn this morning doesn't mean he has no desire to win. That's kind of a silly statement.
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I wouldn't go that far. They have a rabid fan base, great facilities, and a new head coach. He's probably just doing his due diligence as far as contract offers go.

Just b/c he wasn't immediately on Redskin One for a visit to Ashburn this morning doesn't mean he has no desire to win. That's kind of a silly statement.
My point wasnt that he wasnt coming HERE, its that he was going to Detroit. Detroits the joke of the NFL. none of their front office or coaching moves looks to have made the team any better... why on earth would ANYONE go to detroit?
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:09 PM   #7
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My point wasnt that he wasnt coming HERE, its that he was going to Detroit. Detroits the joke of the NFL. none of their front office or coaching moves looks to have made the team any better... why on earth would ANYONE go to detroit?
I'm pretty sure even with Parcells the same could have been said by some about coming to Miami last year. 1-15 team, first time head coach, turmoil in the locker-room.

How can anyone say that their front office and coaching moves haven't made the team better? They got rid of the worst GM in NFL history with Matt Millen and fired a coach that went 1-23 in his last 24 games. I think they can ONLY get better by default!
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My point wasnt that he wasnt coming HERE, its that he was going to Detroit. Detroits the joke of the NFL. none of their front office or coaching moves looks to have made the team any better... why on earth would ANYONE go to detroit?
They've got more salary cap space which equates to a bigger contract.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:14 PM   #9
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I wouldn't go that far. They have a rabid fan base, great facilities, and a new head coach. He's probably just doing his due diligence as far as contract offers go.

Just b/c he wasn't immediately on Redskin One for a visit to Ashburn this morning doesn't mean he has no desire to win. That's kind of a silly statement.
Nothing wrong with him checking out his options. I agree, to question his desire based on that is pretty silly.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:45 PM   #10
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Dockery In Detroit (So Tempted To Call This Dr. Detroit) - Redskins Insider

Any quality free agent who would even consider detroit doesnt care about winning. this makes me question docks desire. I certainly would not overpay for him 1 cent.
Well, Dockery did leave a Hall of Fame coach to go to the Bills for money.
Of course he will consider Detroit or anywhere to get a paycheck.
We know if he would consider Detroit...the Skins would only need to match the offer...Buges trained this guy up...as you recall, Dockery was not that great in his first couple years here...a reunion with Buges would maximize his potential...a move elswhere and he'd likely be no more than average.
But at least he's average and young...With the Skins...he could be good.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:53 PM   #11
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My thing with Dock is why is Buff letting him go? Dock just seems like kind of an average player to me. He was never anything special here. Good road grader but couldn't pull and got a ton of false starts. Plus Kendall really wasn't the main problem with the line. It was more Jansen and Rabach IMO. I know we need to get younger but what about Rinehart? Does he just plain suck?
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My thing with Dock is why is Buff letting him go? Dock just seems like kind of an average player to me. He was never anything special here. Good road grader but couldn't pull and got a ton of false starts. Plus Kendall really wasn't the main problem with the line. It was more Jansen and Rabach IMO. I know we need to get younger but what about Rinehart? Does he just plain suck?
Kendall was definitely not the main problem with the line, but he's also the one part of it that doesn't have a contract for next season.

I really do think Jason Brown is/should be the team's first choice here, but Dockery should be the plan B. I hope if they do pay for Brown, they release Rabach and let Brown be the Center. Paying him to play LG would be such a misuse of our limited resources.
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Old 02-27-2009, 03:03 PM   #13
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Kendall was definitely not the main problem with the line, but he's also the one part of it that doesn't have a contract for next season.

I really do think Jason Brown is/should be the team's first choice here, but Dockery should be the plan B. I hope if they do pay for Brown, they release Rabach and let Brown be the Center. Paying him to play LG would be such a misuse of our limited resources.
I don't know much about this guy Brown from Balt. other than he can play center and guard but again, can he play? Why isn't Balt. resigning him?
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I don't know much about this guy Brown from Balt. other than he can play center and guard but again, can he play? Why isn't Balt. resigning him?
He's young and mediocre. Not unlike Hall.

He's clearly more physically able to handle the position than Rabach is. He's not necessarily worth what he's going to get in free agency, but he would fill a hole that we would no longer need to use a draft pick on, which is valuable within itself.
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I don't know much about this guy Brown from Balt. other than he can play center and guard but again, can he play? Why isn't Balt. resigning him?
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Comment: Brown is a big, strong and wide-bodied interior offensive lineman who has a very thick lower body that makes him difficult to move backwards. Brown played both guard and center in college. While he has only played guard in the NFL, he is capable of handling the pivot and should do an excellent job against massive nose tackle types from the center position. He is a very powerful man who can push a pile or anchor against bigger pass rushers. He is a mauler who puts smaller men on their back and he shows a willingness to finish his blocks. Brown has heavy hands and can stun opposing linemen with his punch and long arms. He is a smart player who acclimated to the NFL quickly and has good recognition of stunts and blitzes. While he continues to improve in this area, Brown is still much better coming forward than retreating in pass protection. He isn't a very good space player and once beaten, can struggle to recover against quicker, more athletic interior pass rushers. He is a two-year starter who should continue to improve. He works hard and is well respected. The Ravens need to be careful with his tender because if they tender him too low, many teams around the league could pounce on Brown. He is a legitimate starter on a power-running team and his stock should continue to rise.
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