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Old 03-11-2009, 02:41 PM   #1
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Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13

bad pro day numbers. 19 reps? 5.3 aint great either, but it's less important.
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:11 PM   #2
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bad pro day numbers. 19 reps? 5.3 aint great either, but it's less important.
Reps are worthless as a combine tool though, because blocking is all footwork, balance and hand placement anyway.

We look at nineteen reps and say "whoa, he's not nearly as strong as other guys" but anyone who can put up 225 12 times or more is plenty strong to play in the NFL. He's still in the top 0.3% of males at his age, obviously.

If he does fail in the NFL, it will be for other reasons. Perhaps his relative bench totals and 40 time are indicative of a bigger problem, but there's no correlation between combine (or pro day) bench reps and NFL success anyway, so I'd say the kids stock probably shouldn't fall any because of this.

If anything, this validates his story at the combine about not wanting to work out, and was probably a good business decision in the long run. Had he put up a 14 spot at the combine, he might have dropped out of the first round. Now, he's still going to be the third or fourth tackle taken.

Of course, reason #1 why the draft process is good: some team would have taken this guy with the first or second overall pick after the season ended.
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:37 PM   #3
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Re: Andre Smith still leads in the Database at #13

Imagine the hilarity of NBA players losing stock in drafts because of low situp totals and slow suicide sprint times.
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:08 PM   #4
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Reps are worthless as a combine tool though, because blocking is all footwork, balance and hand placement anyway.

We look at nineteen reps and say "whoa, he's not nearly as strong as other guys" but anyone who can put up 225 12 times or more is plenty strong to play in the NFL. He's still in the top 0.3% of males at his age, obviously.

If he does fail in the NFL, it will be for other reasons. Perhaps his relative bench totals and 40 time are indicative of a bigger problem, but there's no correlation between combine (or pro day) bench reps and NFL success anyway, so I'd say the kids stock probably shouldn't fall any because of this.

If anything, this validates his story at the combine about not wanting to work out, and was probably a good business decision in the long run. Had he put up a 14 spot at the combine, he might have dropped out of the first round. Now, he's still going to be the third or fourth tackle taken.

Of course, reason #1 why the draft process is good: some team would have taken this guy with the first or second overall pick after the season ended.
Exactly. Sean Taylore only did like 8 or 9 reps. Jared All did 11 or 12.
The bench pressing means nothing. But I'd leave the guy alone. I saw him on NFL Newotrk last night and he looked like a total fat out of shape sack of poop.
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Old 03-12-2009, 09:44 AM   #5
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bad pro day numbers. 19 reps? 5.3 aint great either, but it's less important.
LT's generally have long arms which lowers their rep totals. I would be more worried about his weight becoming an issue and him breaking down as he gets older...or his weight being an indicator that he is not a hard worker. I also read that he has always been a chubby guy so it could just be his genes.
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