How long do you keep Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly if they don't produce?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I REALLY hope that doesn't happen. There are 2 things we've lacked for more than 20 years, a no doubt franchise QB and a pass rusher the offense has to account for on every down. We're not going to address QB in this draft since we may have the solution already in house but IF Maybin or Orapko is available we have to pull that trigger.

I wish our fanbase didn't have an obsession with OL and not discounting the need to upgrade if possible at RT but you don't draft RT in the 1st round, especially not in the teens! That's just madness. If you have good scouting and good coaching you should be able to get a RT in the 3rd round and have him starting on opening day.

Well, if we do our homework, we can get a scheme-effective LB in the third round, and could avoid paying top-half-of-first-round money to a guy who will probably be playing for a different coordinator in a different scheme in a year from the guy that's drafting him.

Orakpo is fine since he's scheme-adaptable and figures to take over for Andre Carter anyway, but would you really have Maybin over say, Michael Oher? Maybin is not even half the prospect Vernon Gholston was a year ago and the Jets are already trying to pull their pants up from that one.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, if we do our homework, we can get a scheme-effective LB in the third round, and could avoid paying top-half-of-first-round money to a guy who will probably be playing for a different coordinator in a different scheme in a year from the guy that's drafting him.

Orakpo is fine since he's scheme-adaptable and figures to take over for Andre Carter anyway, but would you really have Maybin over say, Michael Oher? Maybin is not even half the prospect Vernon Gholston was a year ago and the Jets are already trying to pull their pants up from that one.

I've heard that some scouts aren't even sure if Maybin is an NFL player at all. He had one decent season as a redshirt sophomore and declared for the draft. Didn't we draft a guy a last year who only put up one college season worth mentioning? Isn't his name in the title of this thread?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, if we do our homework, we can get a scheme-effective LB in the third round, and could avoid paying top-half-of-first-round money to a guy who will probably be playing for a different coordinator in a different scheme in a year from the guy that's drafting him.

Orakpo is fine since he's scheme-adaptable and figures to take over for Andre Carter anyway, but would you really have Maybin over say, Michael Oher? Maybin is not even half the prospect Vernon Gholston was a year ago and the Jets are already trying to pull their pants up from that one.

I'm the first one to admit that I don't watch college football at all. I read a lot of the analysis and watch a lot of the pre-draft coverage so my opinions on individual players coming out may not be the best based on what I've seen them do in games. I know the NFL game much better than college.

I do know however that our pass rush/DE/LB need is greater than our need at OT. Historically more RT are either early mid round (2-5) picks or guys who were drafted at LT but washed out and ended up at RT than guys drafted to be a LT of the future but start at RT. The last RT I recall being an early pick was Mike Williams in Buffalo and he was out of the league in 4 years I think.

At #13 I'm hoping we go for someone elite, a potential game changer. Maybin has (according to reports) a lightning quick first step, good closing ability and is serviceable against the run. Orapko seems like he's going to be similar to Carter, as you said, but with a little better run support. Honestly, I don't care if it's one of them, Everette Brown or any of the other top DE/LB, just as long as they get to the passer. We missed out on 2 elite pass rushers already this decade (Merriman & Ware) so hopefully we don't miss out again.