Zorn says no on Cutler, talks Haynesworth, Hall and '09 hopes

[GusFrerotte]

IF Zorn came out and said JC is his man then it is so. IF Vinny did get rid of JC now it would be an absolute embarrassment to Zorn and the FO. It would seem like they didn't have their shit together. I am glad that the Cutler talk is dying out. I pissed people off saying Jason was average to above average. I didn't want Cutler, but I personally don't think Jason is going to be the guy that gets us over the hump. Not sold on Brennan either. We really need to get a QB in 2010, but this time the scouts really need to pick a real winner.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

IF Zorn came out and said JC is his man then it is so. IF Vinny did get rid of JC now it would be an absolute embarrassment to Zorn and the FO. It would seem like they didn't have their shit together.

I've been saying this all along (since this article came out). Honestly, I don't think the FO would throw Zorn under the bus.

[MTK]

Ugh the shirtless douchebag party

[MTK]

You can have diabetes and still party like a rock star. I knew a few guys in college who did it, granted they weren't in the best of health and it's a death wish, but it can be done.

[over the mountain]

sorry i know im late to the party and this isnt the welcome albert thread but it still hasnt set in that one of our biggest problems last year was not having a pocket collapsing dominate DT and we picked up the best DT in the game at 27 yrs old for 4 yrs 48 mil . . . somebody pinch me, i still cant believe we got him. yahoooo!!

go skins!!

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

sorry i know im late to the party and this isnt the welcome albert thread but it still hasnt set in that one of our biggest problems last year was not having a pocket collapsing dominate DT and we picked up the best DT in the game at 27 yrs old for 4 yrs 48 mil . . . somebody pinch me, i still cant believe we got him. yahoooo!!

go skins!!

Right. By some of the posts on here you'd think we haven't done anything good this year. Remember how much some of the posters wanted AH and said how we would become a dominant defense if we had him? I can't wait to see him on the field in B&G this year! Hip Hip......

[over the mountain]

i think we upgraded an already solid core team, imo we

- added big AH, lost evans
- replaced kendal with dock, kendal still might sign with us which would be great
- replaced springs with hall
- lost MW whom might still sign with us
- our 3 2nd round picks are now not rookies but 2nd year players ready to take on more responsibility, they have to contribute more than they did last year so thats an upgrade on offense imo

we upgraded in almost every move we did except OLB and we still have the 13th overall pick to add rey or one of the top 4 tackles.

this offseason we have improved in areas of need and we still got the 13th pick to address one more need.

go skins!!

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i think we upgraded an already solid core team, imo we

- added big AH, lost evans
- replaced kendal with dock, kendal still might sign with us which would be great
- replaced springs with hall
- lost MW whom might still sign with us
- our 3 2nd round picks are now not rookies but 2nd year players ready to take on more responsibility, they have to contribute more than they did last year so thats an upgrade on offense imo

we upgraded in almost every move we did except OLB and we still have the 13th overall pick to add rey or one of the top 4 tackles.

this offseason we have improved in areas of need and we still got the 13th pick to address one more need.

go skins!!

Good post OTM. Hail Redskins!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i think we upgraded an already solid core team, imo we

- added big AH, lost evans
- replaced kendal with dock, kendal still might sign with us which would be great
- replaced springs with hall
- lost MW whom might still sign with us
- our 3 2nd round picks are now not rookies but 2nd year players ready to take on more responsibility, they have to contribute more than they did last year so thats an upgrade on offense imo

we upgraded in almost every move we did except OLB and we still have the 13th overall pick to add rey or one of the top 4 tackles.

this offseason we have improved in areas of need and we still got the 13th pick to address one more need.

go skins!!

Word...optimism is usually contagious but I only catch colds LOL. Seriously, JC playing w/ a chip on his shoulder excites the hell out of me.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Word...optimism is usually contagious but I only catch colds LOL. Seriously, JC playing w/ a chip on his shoulder excites the hell out of me.

Absolutely.

I believe him when he says he would have played hard anyways, he's that type of worker/player/person.

This probably will push him beyond his own expectations though. He's improved every season so far and will be better next year too.

[Skinny Tee]

Zorn may have said "No" but Snyder & Vinny obviously said "Yes"

I think this whole fiassco goes to show you that Zorn has no say over the roster. Is that the tools you want to deny a head coach you want to become successful?

It's looking more to me that Zorn came in knowing that he is a filling a transistional phase between coaches.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Zorn may have said "No" but Snyder & Vinny obviously said "Yes"

I think this whole fiassco goes to show you that Zorn has no say over the roster. Is that the tools you want to deny a head coach you want to become successful?

It's looking more to me that Zorn came in knowing that he is a filling a transistional phase between coaches.

Actually the only one I've heard as saying yes was Sndyer. I think Cerrato actually might be innocent in all this. Zorn is definately innocent though, that much I'm sure of.

[CRedskinsRule]

See, I think Snyder obviously said Yes, and Zorn obviously said No, but I don't think it is at all clear that Vinnie said Yes.
I think
Snyder said "Yes at any price"
Zorn said "No it's not really a need" (with a nod that if it happens he will make it work)
and Vinnie said "Yes but only if the price is right

If this is in fact what happened, then that seems about the right sentiment. 30% of the fans wanted Cutler no matter the price, the rest wanted Cutler, but I am sure most, if the price had been right, would have accepted the deal.

This doesn't mean Zorn has no control, just that he doesn't have Total control, and with our FO structure I don't think any 1 of the 3 should have total control.

[tootergray34]

ralph from the simpsons said umpossible...i got it: back to the point at hand.

we are stuck with campbell, but I bet you anything if 8 games go by and we have a losing record...colt might get himself a chance.