Broncos to trade Cutler

Daseal · 03-31-2009, 10:52 PM

GMScud, you couldn't be more wrong about the Cutler situation. Cutler certainly wasn't happy to hear his name floating in trade talks. Especially since he put in an enormous effort to be at the facility all off season learning the new offense, etc. However, that's not what forced him into shying away from the Broncos.

Jay Cutler initiated the phone call between McDaniels and Cutler. During this phone call McDaniels continued to be a douche. Cutler said all he wanted to hear is that going forward, he was the QB. No one LIKES being discussed in trade talks, but they understand it's a business more than anyone. Mort wrote a great article on it that I posted a while back that shines light on the whole situation.

Instead of taking bits and pieces of a story out of context, educate yourself just a little bit in workings around the league. McDaniels has handled this situation very, very poorly.

Lets be honest here, those of you saying Cutler wasn't that good. Of his interceptions, 75% came in the 4th quarter when behind. This means they're throwing and everyone in the stadium knows it. Secondly, they were the 2nd ranked offense in the NFL, they lost what -- 5 running backs, six maybe -- during the course of the season. And their defense was absolutely atrocious. If the Broncos just had the 15th ranked defense they would have easily won that division and been dangerous in the playoffs.

Campbell is a solid player -- but he's no Cutler.

Link to the Mort article: Meeting with Josh McDaniels, GM backfires, Jay Cutler asks Denver Broncos for trade - ESPN

GridIron26 · 03-31-2009, 11:02 PM

Good post Dasel..

I really believe that Cutler is really good QB; as for the situation, I think both parties played the whole thing poorly.. McDaniel and Broncos should have speak to Cutler or even at least let Cutler know that they are considering about trading him away before going out and try to trade Cutler.. Cutler made it into HUGE deal and his stubbornness got in the way, as well..

I'm wondering to see why lot of people seem to believe that McDaniel is going do well? Granted, he proved it when he made Cassell look like a star last season.. But that was in NE Patriots, along with BB and players around him.. If I remember correctly, none of current head coaches that came from BB's crew became successful head coach?

GTripp0012 · 03-31-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Lets be honest here, those of you saying Cutler wasn't that good. Of his interceptions, 75% came in the 4th quarter when behind. This means they're throwing and everyone in the stadium knows it. Secondly, they were the 2nd ranked offense in the NFL, they lost what -- 5 running backs, six maybe -- during the course of the season. And their defense was absolutely atrocious. If the Broncos just had the 15th ranked defense they would have easily won that division and been dangerous in the playoffs.

Campbell is a solid player -- but he's no Cutler.

Didn't all but one of Campbell's interceptions come while behind? Is that not a greater percentage than 75%?

It's a good point that defense quality skews interception totals and Cutler certainly had no breaks from his defense, but it's not like those INTs aren't his fault. He's a career 3 to 2 TD/INT guy. That might not be his ceiling, but I doubt Campbell's ceiling is the 2 to 1 he's currently at.

SmokinSkins · 03-31-2009, 11:08 PM

My First Post,
So take it easy on me dudes.
I would trade for Cutler in a New York Minute. He has shown what he can do, and that is light up the scoreboard.
Campbell has also shown what he can do. I would expect Campbell to improve as the years go on. But what you see now is what your going to get. There will be no "break out" performance.
You may see some great days, and you will see some very average days.
Just like what you have seen for how many years?

How many Games has Campbell Pulled out for the Skins?

Name Them....

GMScud · 03-31-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

GMScud, you couldn't be more wrong about the Cutler situation. Cutler certainly wasn't happy to hear his name floating in trade talks. Especially since he put in an enormous effort to be at the facility all off season learning the new offense, etc. However, that's not what forced him into shying away from the Broncos.

Jay Cutler initiated the phone call between McDaniels and Cutler. During this phone call McDaniels continued to be a douche. Cutler said all he wanted to hear is that going forward, he was the QB. No one LIKES being discussed in trade talks, but they understand it's a business more than anyone. Mort wrote a great article on it that I posted a while back that shines light on the whole situation.

Instead of taking bits and pieces of a story out of context, educate yourself just a little bit in workings around the league. McDaniels has handled this situation very, very poorly.

Lets be honest here, those of you saying Cutler wasn't that good. Of his interceptions, 75% came in the 4th quarter when behind. This means they're throwing and everyone in the stadium knows it. Secondly, they were the 2nd ranked offense in the NFL, they lost what -- 5 running backs, six maybe -- during the course of the season. And their defense was absolutely atrocious. If the Broncos just had the 15th ranked defense they would have easily won that division and been dangerous in the playoffs.

Campbell is a solid player -- but he's no Cutler.

Link to the Mort article: Meeting with Josh McDaniels, GM backfires, Jay Cutler asks Denver Broncos for trade - ESPN

Gee, I'm sorry. Thank you so much for taking the time to educate me.

I knew everything you just said before I posted on this thread. Did I ever excuse McDaniels? Of course he handled it poorly. He brings the Patriots' mentality of never letting the inmates run the asylum, but he just went a little too far with this one.

Fact is, even with McDaniels fumbling this one, Cutler still could have handled it in house without using the media as a mouthpiece for his crying. He purposely started a public pissing match. And how about the past 10 days? McDaniels and the Broncos owner Bowlen have both tried numerous times to contact Cutler, and he won't even acknowledge them. He's acting like a child.

I understand the Broncos and McDaniels should have been more straightforward with Cutler, but he's making a very poor decision IMO, and he's acting like a douche. I'm definitely not the only one who thinks so. Cutler has been a pompous jerk from day 1, and this situation just furthers the notion.

Kerry Rhodes angry with 'too confident' Jay Cutler - The Huddle - USATODAY.com
Hastings: Cutler is an "arrogant little punk" and a "little bitch" - Dan Patrick.com
Jay Cutler's bruised ego - The Denver Post
Trade Cutler? George deal in 1994 provides warning - The Denver Post

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03-31-2009, 10:52 PM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: Broncos to trade Cutler GMScud, you couldn't be more wrong about the Cutler situation. Cutler certainly wasn't happy to hear his name floating in trade talks. Especially since he put in an enormous effort to be at the facility all off season learning the new offense, etc. However, that's not what forced him into shying away from the Broncos. Jay Cutler initiated the phone call between McDaniels and Cutler. During this phone call McDaniels continued to be a douche. Cutler said all he wanted to hear is that going forward, he was the QB. No one LIKES being discussed in trade talks, but they understand it's a business more than anyone. Mort wrote a great article on it that I posted a while back that shines light on the whole situation. Instead of taking bits and pieces of a story out of context, educate yourself just a little bit in workings around the league. McDaniels has handled this situation very, very poorly. Lets be honest here, those of you saying Cutler wasn't that good. Of his interceptions, 75% came in the 4th quarter when behind. This means they're throwing and everyone in the stadium knows it. Secondly, they were the 2nd ranked offense in the NFL, they lost what -- 5 running backs, six maybe -- during the course of the season. And their defense was absolutely atrocious. If the Broncos just had the 15th ranked defense they would have easily won that division and been dangerous in the playoffs. Campbell is a solid player -- but he's no Cutler. Link to the Mort article: Meeting with Josh McDaniels, GM backfires, Jay Cutler asks Denver Broncos for trade - ESPN __________________ Best. Player. Available.

03-31-2009, 11:02 PM	#2
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 37 Posts: 3,593	Re: Broncos to trade Cutler Good post Dasel.. I really believe that Cutler is really good QB; as for the situation, I think both parties played the whole thing poorly.. McDaniel and Broncos should have speak to Cutler or even at least let Cutler know that they are considering about trading him away before going out and try to trade Cutler.. Cutler made it into HUGE deal and his stubbornness got in the way, as well.. I'm wondering to see why lot of people seem to believe that McDaniel is going do well? Granted, he proved it when he made Cassell look like a star last season.. But that was in NE Patriots, along with BB and players around him.. If I remember correctly, none of current head coaches that came from BB's crew became successful head coach?

03-31-2009, 11:08 PM	#4
SmokinSkins Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Broncos to trade Cutler My First Post, So take it easy on me dudes. I would trade for Cutler in a New York Minute. He has shown what he can do, and that is light up the scoreboard. Campbell has also shown what he can do. I would expect Campbell to improve as the years go on. But what you see now is what your going to get. There will be no "break out" performance. You may see some great days, and you will see some very average days. Just like what you have seen for how many years? How many Games has Campbell Pulled out for the Skins? Name Them....

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