If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?

GTripp0012 · 04-01-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Some guys think I am a Jason hater, I cheer for him, and want him to succeed. Thing is after being a Skins fan(football fan) for a long time you get to spot things that seem to be trends. Jason is a good QB, but unless you really stack the deck with regards to the offense I am thinking that he won't really "breakout" like we have been hoping for. GTripp thinks I am comparing just the QBs talents with me talkiing about Gus and JC, but it is not just that, it is the fact that a lot of us hoped Gus could breakout as well as Patrick. Maybe he(Jason) will this season and I will look like an ass, but IMHO I think we have pretty much seen what we are going to be getting out of him already. Keep JC around and if he is just average(nothing really special) let him go and go with Colt. I am not sold on Colt either and that is why I think if we want to make a big move, it will be to try and secure either McCoy or Bramford in the 2010 draft. Doing this Cutler thing will cost us at least one first rounder, maybe two, or other multiple picks. We need first rounders to build around. The NFC East isn't the AFC West and Cutler might get killed here. A very big risk!!!

I agree. I still think Gus gets mentioned too often though.

GTripp0012 · 04-01-2009, 07:46 PM

Snyder's not stupid, but the problem comes if the Broncos say they are willing to take on Jason Campbell as the primary object in the trade. As soon as that happens, you can watch Bowlen start to suck draft picks out of Snyder, beginning with the 13th pick.

And if Denver doesn't want Campbell, then there's no way this trade gets done with us anyway. We may be interested, but if they don't like Campbell at least as much as we do, there's no way we outbid anyone else.

NM Redskin · 04-01-2009, 07:48 PM

If it happens that we do get Cutler, Id hope we'd stick with Zorn.

GusFrerotte · 04-01-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NM Redskin

If it happens that we do get Cutler, Id hope we'd stick with Zorn.

At this point, if Snyder is daring(or crazy) enough to go trade for Cutler, he might want to bring in Shanny and his O to compliment him. If both Jason and Zorn go, Danny is going to look like an ass. I wonder if Vinny would resign in protest.

Eknox · 04-01-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

At this point, if Snyder is daring(or crazy) enough to go trade for Cutler, he might want to bring in Shanny and his O to compliment him. If both Jason and Zorn go, Danny is going to look like an ass. I wonder if Vinny would resign in protest.

I doubt Vinny would ever leave (where else would he go?)

Ruhskins · 04-01-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

At this point, if Snyder is daring(or crazy) enough to go trade for Cutler, he might want to bring in Shanny and his O to compliment him. If both Jason and Zorn go, Danny is going to look like an ass. I wonder if Vinny would resign in protest.

Well considering that DS would be throwing both VC and Zorn under the bus, I would say yes.

And just a reminder that this is all speculation folks.

GTripp0012 · 04-01-2009, 07:49 PM

But notice how I'm exonerating Vinny from all blame here. He's not going to sign off on dealing Jason Campbell. Not going to happen. He has way too much football sense for that.

Any interest, perceived or real, is coming from sources close to Snyder, and over the head of Cerrato and Zorn who truly, legitimately believe these rumors are total B.S. At this point though, there's something to them, whether or not something gets done.

GusFrerotte · 04-01-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But notice how I'm exonerating Vinny from all blame here. He's not going to sign off on dealing Jason Campbell. Not going to happen. He has way too much football sense for that.

Any interest, perceived or real, is coming from sources close to Snyder, and over the head of Cerrato and Zorn who truly, legitimately believe these rumors are total B.S. At this point though, there's something to them, whether or not something gets done.

Unless that writer from the Denver Post is totally Bsing there looks like there is something going on. He mentioned that Denver would get back to back 1st round picks if the dealt with the Skins, but then he talked about the Jets, who he considered to have more to offer Denver. This is getting very interesting.

GusFrerotte · 04-01-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But notice how I'm exonerating Vinny from all blame here. He's not going to sign off on dealing Jason Campbell. Not going to happen. He has way too much football sense for that.

Any interest, perceived or real, is coming from sources close to Snyder, and over the head of Cerrato and Zorn who truly, legitimately believe these rumors are total B.S. At this point though, there's something to them, whether or not something gets done.

You would think Snyder would learn by now. Everytime he has gone for the "sexy" pick or FA signing it always is a dismal bust.

12thMan · 04-01-2009, 07:54 PM

Wow, I read through two pages and it's only people defending themselves.

Anyway, that rumor is out there. So as far as I'm concermed, it's a legit discussion that warrants it's own thread. Now do I agree with the scenerio if it played out, I don't know. Two years ago I would have been on the Danny and Vinny don't know what they're doing bandwagon. But I'm not so sure that every short term move is a bad one.

That being said, I love Campbell and I think he and Zorn can make things happen here in D.C. But my heart wouldn't be broken if we shipped them off.

I think if --big if--you bring Cutler here, it makes it all the more appealing Mike S. comes along. I think that's all the original post was about.

Nflnick11 · 04-01-2009, 08:10 PM

I wouldn't be going off on people about this "April fools joke" of shannahan coming here that may sound ridiculous, but then again our franchise is known for making the ridulous happen...everything with the redskins is like this "April fools joke" bottomline don't call people stupid for something that really could happen just like how theredski a had no interest in cutler a week ago now we want to trade for him...

CRedskinsRule · 04-01-2009, 08:12 PM

Pat Bowlen "Danny, I need something to pick up the stock of this whiny a** cheese d*** qb I got here, got any ideas"

DS "Tell you what, I know my qb won't freak, so go ahead and lets start the rumor mill."

PB " Ok, what would you offer for him?"

DS " How about Campbell, the 13th and next years 1st"

PB "DEAL"

DS(thinking) " OH S*** now Vinnies gonna be real mad"

DS(Speaking) " Say Pat if we are doing this, you got any idea how I can reach Mike??"

PB (Laughing) "I'm Sorry were you saying something, I was just studying whose available around #13"

GusFrerotte · 04-01-2009, 10:27 PM

Gus is mentioned G, just because he is the only post Rypien QB that was around long enough to evaluate over more than 3 seasons worth of play. I also use him because I really liked him and like Patrick, and JC, I was really hoping him to be our next franchise guy. Unfortunately disappointment abounds in Skinsland with regards to finding that ever elusive franchise guy. JC still can become that QB, but he really needs to step it up to a whole other level to get me convinced.

djnemo65 · 04-01-2009, 10:27 PM

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Eknox · 04-01-2009, 11:31 PM

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04-01-2009, 07:46 PM	#2
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ? Snyder's not stupid, but the problem comes if the Broncos say they are willing to take on Jason Campbell as the primary object in the trade. As soon as that happens, you can watch Bowlen start to suck draft picks out of Snyder, beginning with the 13th pick. And if Denver doesn't want Campbell, then there's no way this trade gets done with us anyway. We may be interested, but if they don't like Campbell at least as much as we do, there's no way we outbid anyone else. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

04-01-2009, 07:48 PM	#3
NM Redskin The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,014	Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ? If it happens that we do get Cutler, Id hope we'd stick with Zorn. __________________ Despite my solid 40 time and great intangibles I went undrafted AGAIN!

04-01-2009, 07:49 PM	#7
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ? But notice how I'm exonerating Vinny from all blame here. He's not going to sign off on dealing Jason Campbell. Not going to happen. He has way too much football sense for that. Any interest, perceived or real, is coming from sources close to Snyder, and over the head of Cerrato and Zorn who truly, legitimately believe these rumors are total B.S. At this point though, there's something to them, whether or not something gets done. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

04-01-2009, 07:54 PM	#10
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ? Wow, I read through two pages and it's only people defending themselves. Anyway, that rumor is out there. So as far as I'm concermed, it's a legit discussion that warrants it's own thread. Now do I agree with the scenerio if it played out, I don't know. Two years ago I would have been on the Danny and Vinny don't know what they're doing bandwagon. But I'm not so sure that every short term move is a bad one. That being said, I love Campbell and I think he and Zorn can make things happen here in D.C. But my heart wouldn't be broken if we shipped them off. I think if --big if--you bring Cutler here, it makes it all the more appealing Mike S. comes along. I think that's all the original post was about.

04-01-2009, 08:10 PM	#11
Nflnick11 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 432	Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ? I wouldn't be going off on people about this "April fools joke" of shannahan coming here that may sound ridiculous, but then again our franchise is known for making the ridulous happen...everything with the redskins is like this "April fools joke" bottomline don't call people stupid for something that really could happen just like how theredski a had no interest in cutler a week ago now we want to trade for him...

04-01-2009, 08:12 PM	#12
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,698	Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ? Pat Bowlen "Danny, I need something to pick up the stock of this whiny a cheese d* qb I got here, got any ideas" DS "Tell you what, I know my qb won't freak, so go ahead and lets start the rumor mill." PB " Ok, what would you offer for him?" DS " How about Campbell, the 13th and next years 1st" PB "DEAL" DS(thinking) " OH S*** now Vinnies gonna be real mad" DS(Speaking) " Say Pat if we are doing this, you got any idea how I can reach Mike??" PB (Laughing) "I'm Sorry were you saying something, I was just studying whose available around #13"

04-01-2009, 10:27 PM	#13
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ? Gus is mentioned G, just because he is the only post Rypien QB that was around long enough to evaluate over more than 3 seasons worth of play. I also use him because I really liked him and like Patrick, and JC, I was really hoping him to be our next franchise guy. Unfortunately disappointment abounds in Skinsland with regards to finding that ever elusive franchise guy. JC still can become that QB, but he really needs to step it up to a whole other level to get me convinced.

04-01-2009, 10:27 PM	#14
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ? This is for you Ek .... This is the best thread ever! And you are my best friend!

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