Randy Thomas Risked it All!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

He's a football player and he did what a true team player would do, put his team above himself. Any of his teammates should run through walls for the guy.

However, the coaches and medical staff are IDIOTS. I agree with irish on this 100%. A true football player will do whatever he needs to do for his teammates, but it's the coaches and med staff's responsibility to put the players health before on-field success. The disappointment is beyond words for the coaching and med staff that let this happen.

No way would I ever put a player on the field with this type of potential risk to his health.

The decision is ultimately on the player.

Every time these guys step on the field they risk serious injury. Where do you draw the line?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The decision is ultimately on the player.

Every time these guys step on the field they risk serious injury. Where do you draw the line?

No. The decision on who steps on the field is the coaches. A majority of the players will play if they can physically get on the field.

A herniated disk in the neck is pretty serious. I draw the line at putting a player on the field when you're looking at a chance of potential paralysis from the neck down.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

No. The decision on who steps on the field is the coaches. A majority of the players will play if they can physically get on the field.

A herniated disk in the neck is pretty serious. I draw the line at putting a player on the field when you're looking at a chance of potential paralysis from the neck down.

Right, and the guy was obviously healthy enough to play.

Personally I'd like to know what the % risk of serious injury was. Was it 1%, 10%, 90%?

If it was something very high I doubt the team would have let him play. But if it was something on the low end I think it's got to be left up to the player.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The decision is ultimately on the player.

Every time these guys step on the field they risk serious injury. Where do you draw the line?

There is a difference in them going on the field risking injury and going on the field with a risk of paralysis. I respect the fact that he wanted to play with hopes at making the playoffs but at some point the coaching staff and meds. have to step in. To make it even worse they let him play in a meanless game at the end of the season. What would we have thought about the coaches and trainers if something bad did happen and if it then happened in our last meanless game at that.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by saden1

He's no warrior, he's an idiot.

I am not sure that "warrior" and "idiot" are mutually exclusive categories...

I agree with the comments that someone in the training room needed to tell him "no." Sucking it up for the team is one thing. Ruining the remaining 40 years of your life, if you make it that long, is something else.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I am not sure that "warrior" and "idiot" are mutually exclusive categories...

I agree with the comments that someone in the training room needed to tell him "no." Sucking it up for the team is one thing. Ruining the remaining 40 years of your life, if you make it that long, is something else.

You're absolutely right. He's a stupid warrior.

[diehard]

Anyone should know that back and neck injuries are very critical.

[irish]

I find it unconsionable that the Skins coaches & staff knew about this and still allowed him to risk his life playing. Talk about irresponsible. I dont blame RT for wanting to play but sometimes people need people to save them from themselves.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by irish

I find it unconsionable that the Skins coaches & staff knew about this and still allowed him to risk his life playing. Talk about irresponsible. I dont blame RT for wanting to play but sometimes people need people to save them from themselves.

I think folks should be up in arms over the fact our FO failed to draft/acquire a legt backup in 2+ years...I mean sure it was a bad risk to play Thomas but who would have played instead? The line was and is in shambles w/o some responsible management...somehow I doubt even this will serve as a wake-up call.

[cobracai1]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I think folks should be up in arms over the fact our FO failed to draft/acquire a legt backup in 2+ years...I mean sure it was a bad risk to play Thomas but who would have played instead? The line was and is in shambles w/o some responsible management...somehow I doubt even this will serve as a wake-up call.

Just to play devil's advocate they did draft rhinehart in the third last year which is a good spot to take guards/centers. Its still unknown whether he will amount to anything but they did try with him. That being said one O-linemen is not adequate.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I think folks should be up in arms over the fact our FO failed to draft/acquire a legt backup in 2+ years...I mean sure it was a bad risk to play Thomas but who would have played instead? The line was and is in shambles w/o some responsible management...somehow I doubt even this will serve as a wake-up call.

Fabini proved that his old man skills play very well at RG. Instead, he was inactive most of the year, and finished at RT, where he was hilariously overmatched. We just didn't have anyone else.

But the "Jansen must go" crowd obviously didn't notice that the big white guy giving up all sorts of pressure against Cinci and Philly wasn't, in fact, Jansen.

[Dirtbag59]

Just out of curiousity. What happens to our salary cap when a player reitres?

[Schneed10]

I think it kind of sucks to criticize him for doing this, but whatever, the bigger thing I take away from this is the fact that the dude is squatting huge amounts of weight right now (you wouldn't put a heavy ass barbell on your neck if it was injured). If he's healthy like it seems he is, he becomes a big wildcard for us. Getting him back healthy would be like getting another free agent offensive lineman. If he can show he still has the athleticism to pull, our offensive line could get a huge boost from both him and Dock.

Remember, Thomas was absolutely critical to us making the playoffs in 2005. He's a very talented OG. I'm definitely encouraged by this.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think it kind of sucks to criticize him for doing this, but whatever, the bigger thing I take away from this is the fact that the dude is squatting huge amounts of weight right now (you wouldn't put a heavy ass barbell on your neck if it was injured). If he's healthy like it seems he is, he becomes a big wildcard for us. Getting him back healthy would be like getting another free agent offensive lineman. If he can show he still has the athleticism to pull, our offensive line could get a huge boost from both him and Dock.

Remember, Thomas was absolutely critical to us making the playoffs in 2005. He's a very talented OG. I'm definitely encouraged by this.

I agree with this..

[MTK]

The things these guys put their bodies through is nothing short of amazing. I hope he's healed up and ready to rock this year.