Randy Thomas Risked it All!

[saden1]

He's no warrior, he's an idiot.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by saden1

He's no warrior, he's an idiot.

Agreed. And for the people looking at this from a football perspective. It'll be like he's playing with foul trouble in the first quarter of a basketball game. Looks though like we need more line help. Surprise.

Though if this is really fixed then we might have just gotten a hell of a football player.

"The recovery was such a breeze except for that first week when I couldn't really swallow or eat a lot,?"

Ironically, knowing what I know about Randy Thomas this might have been the worst part of the whole process.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

He's no warrior, he's an idiot.

I gotta agree and I can't believe the team elt him play. There ahs to be a little more to it. RT is without a shadow of a doubt one of the nicest players I have met. Really down to earth and fun to hang with. I'd love for him to stick around as a coach once he finally hangs it up.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

He's no warrior, he's an idiot.

He's a football player and he did what a true team player would do, put his team above himself. Any of his teammates should run through walls for the guy.

However, the coaches and medical staff are IDIOTS. I agree with irish on this 100%. A true football player will do whatever he needs to do for his teammates, but it's the coaches and med staff's responsibility to put the players health before on-field success. The disappointment is beyond words for the coaching and med staff that let this happen.

No way would I ever put a player on the field with this type of potential risk to his health.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

He's a football player and he did what a true team player would do, put his team above himself. Any of his teammates should run through walls for the guy.

However, the coaches and medical staff are IDIOTS. I agree with irish on this 100%. A true football player will do whatever he needs to do for his teammates, but it's the coaches and med staff's responsibility to put the players health before on-field success. The disappointment is beyond words for the coaching and med staff that let this happen.

No way would I ever put a player on the field with this type of potential risk to his health.

Being a football player doesn't give you the license to do something stupid. I can cross the street blindfolded and chances are good that I won't get hit but you won't see me doing it. You don't put your life before your work. You most certainly don't when you have children to take care of. No, I am well within bounds to think him an idiot.

[Larry Michael is Satan]

Randy, I love ya, babe. One of my all-time favorite redskins. Thank God you are feeling better, but walk away before you get carted away.
I am going to cringe every time he is on the ground from here on out.
Maybe Bugel can start grooming Randy to be our next O Line coach!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

Being a football player doesn't give you the license to do something stupid. I can cross the street blindfolded and chances are good that I won't get hit but you won't see me doing it. You don't put your life before your work. You most certainly don't when you have children to take care of. No, I am well within bounds to think him an idiot.

I don't know RT personally, but I understand the mindset. IMO it wasn't "walking across the street blindfolded" to him, it was taking a calculated risk for his teammates and his determination to not let an injury dictate if he's going to play. Every football player knows they are one play away from a serious injury, but they never worry about it until it's too late. Hence the judgement of the coaches/med staff must be exercised here to protect him.

I would also argue that RT doesn't see his career as "work", he see probably believes it is his life. If I was in his shoes, I'd probably take the same risk if I didn't have a child.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by saden1

Being a football player doesn't give you the license to do something stupid. I can cross the street blindfolded and chances are good that I won't get hit but you won't see me doing it. You don't put your life before your work. You most certainly don't when you have children to take care of. No, I am well within bounds to think him an idiot.

Your already shortening your life almost 15 years by deciding to play football in the first place, what's a couple less years for a couple more million bucks for your family. Most low wage workers(miners for example) put their their health on the line all the time to make an income for family. So i don't think its crazy in his reasoning but yeah the FO should have shut it down.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

He's a football player and he did what a true team player would do, put his team above himself. Any of his teammates should run through walls for the guy.

However, the coaches and medical staff are IDIOTS. I agree with irish on this 100%. A true football player will do whatever he needs to do for his teammates, but it's the coaches and med staff's responsibility to put the players health before on-field success. The disappointment is beyond words for the coaching and med staff that let this happen.

No way would I ever put a player on the field with this type of potential risk to his health.

The decision is ultimately on the player.

Every time these guys step on the field they risk serious injury. Where do you draw the line?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The decision is ultimately on the player.

Every time these guys step on the field they risk serious injury. Where do you draw the line?

No. The decision on who steps on the field is the coaches. A majority of the players will play if they can physically get on the field.

A herniated disk in the neck is pretty serious. I draw the line at putting a player on the field when you're looking at a chance of potential paralysis from the neck down.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

No. The decision on who steps on the field is the coaches. A majority of the players will play if they can physically get on the field.

A herniated disk in the neck is pretty serious. I draw the line at putting a player on the field when you're looking at a chance of potential paralysis from the neck down.

Right, and the guy was obviously healthy enough to play.

Personally I'd like to know what the % risk of serious injury was. Was it 1%, 10%, 90%?

If it was something very high I doubt the team would have let him play. But if it was something on the low end I think it's got to be left up to the player.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Personally I'd like to know what the % risk of serious injury was. Was it 1%, 10%, 90%?

If it was something very high I doubt the team would have let him play. But if it was something on the low end I think it's got to be left up to the player.

And if you're the coach, and the chance is say 10-15%, and you let him get on the field, and his number comes up, what did you take that risk for? Was it worth it? What about the SF game, why risk it? We were already out of the playoffs.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

And if you're the coach, and the chance is say 10-15%, and you let him get on the field, and his number comes up, what did you take that risk for? Was it worth it? What about the SF game, why risk it? We were already out of the playoffs.

Ya, that one didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I can see doing it for the team, but if we were already out, why do that?

Still...more people should be cheering Thomas! Dumb or not, he did it for the team...wish others had that dedication to the team.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Right, and the guy was obviously healthy enough to play.

Personally I'd like to know what the % risk of serious injury was. Was it 1%, 10%, 90%?

If it was something very high I doubt the team would have let him play. But if it was something on the low end I think it's got to be left up to the player.

That's my thought. I don't think the article had the proper context and quite honestly was a little alarmist. I just don't believe teh team would allow someone to realistically risk paralysis in an ongoing fashion.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The decision is ultimately on the player.

Every time these guys step on the field they risk serious injury. Where do you draw the line?

There is a difference in them going on the field risking injury and going on the field with a risk of paralysis. I respect the fact that he wanted to play with hopes at making the playoffs but at some point the coaching staff and meds. have to step in. To make it even worse they let him play in a meanless game at the end of the season. What would we have thought about the coaches and trainers if something bad did happen and if it then happened in our last meanless game at that.