Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[hooskins]

Its the top story on ESPN NFL.

[hooskins]

Mosley is pretty much saying what another poster said here. DS and VC think they can find a Matt Ryan out of Sanchez.

He seems to think Zorn supports Campbell, which goes along with what SS clarified.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Its the top story on ESPN NFL.

Zorn: "You smell something?"
Campbell: "I think it's Rabach."

[hooskins]

I still can't get over all this. The Culter trade was going to make me very upset but this will just kill me. I look forward to Redskins football for the entire offseason and I really couldn't take it with Sanchez. At least Culter is a proven QB at this level.

As someone mentioned before the fans freaked out about Fassel and DS backed off, why can't the same happen with Sanchez?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I still can't get over all this. The Culter trade was going to make me very upset but this will just kill me. I look forward to Redskins football for the entire offseason and I really couldn't take it with Sanchez. At least Culter is a proven QB at this level.

As someone mentioned before the fans freaked out about Fassel and DS backed off, why can't the same happen with Sanchez?

Because of the people in here who think Jason Campbell is the ONLY problem with the Redskins and the Cult of Colt.

[hooskins]

To me this is not just about JC and Colt. It is about trading up and wasting picks for Sanchez because he won't be there at 13.

I've already accepted the fact if he is there at 13, we will get him but it seems like he wont fall so far. But hey after Quinn, who knows.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Its the top story on ESPN NFL.

Zorn: Jason, why is that man staring at me?
Campbell: Oh him? Thats Gregg Williams with two g's. He was supposed to get your job....but he didn't. Good thing I got the boss to tell me I'm their qb otherwise I might have ended up like Gregg...with two g's.

Of course this one I couldn't resist.
Zorn: Jason, whats that?
Jason: That? Thats the money you could be saving with Geico.

[GTripp0012]

BHA, with all due respect, you don't seem to know the first thing about what the WCO really is. I don't think you have any idea what, if anything, makes Campbell a worse fit than Mark Sanchez. I just think you like reading that point over and over again.

The idea that a QB could be a "bad fit" in the WCO is very absurd. It does take some time to develop a west coast mindset. But anyone with a right arm can be a west coast QB. Or a left arm, for that matter.

[skins89moss]

They say the NFL is a copy kat league, maybe Vinny and Dan think with Mark Sanchez at QB he could lead us in to the playoffs. Much like Ryan and Flacco did for their teams. the problem is we dont have the Ravens great defense and we play in the NFC East. No way we win more than 6 games with a rookie QB. We can win with a defense that can force turnovers and get 3 and outs. So if the best tackles are not there at 13th pick and we cant trade down then use it on the best LB or DE . If we don't think the LB OR DE is worthy than draft the best RB(WELLS or Moreno). We need to keep our picks and stop trading them away every year for washed up veteran players ( Jason Taylor, Pete Kendal). The front office panic when Daniels went down so we gave up a 2nd to Miami. We have know confidence in our back up players apparently, with D.Evans and C. Wilson who were waiting for their chance to start. Well we know how that deal worked out. The 2008 draft was the most picks we have had in many years. All of our draft picks made the roster except the punter. I thought we were learning to build through the draft. What do you guys think?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Mosley is pretty much saying what another poster said here. DS and VC think they can find a Matt Ryan out of Sanchez.

He seems to think Zorn supports Campbell, which goes along with what SS clarified.

Mosley's arguably a bigger Campbell fan than any of us here.

But yeah, it seems like what's happening is Zorn is being told "Look, we're not sure we want to make a big long-term financial commitment to Campbell. We're not convinced it's going to be money well spent (remember what I said in another post about econeomy, marketability, etc). So if we take him off the table, who's your QB?"

Zorn: "Well, I think I can make Campbell a good QB. All the other stuff I have nothing to do with. But if pressed, I like Colt but he's not ready. Give me Sanchez"

Blache: "My MLB is older than a lot of head coaches in this league (maybe one actually). And my DEs are older than that. I need help"

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Because of the people in here who think Jason Campbell is the ONLY problem with the Redskins and the Cult of Colt.

Colt is the cult of personality too. Have you ever seen him throw? Pretty darn accurate. Ever seen Jason throw? Not accurate.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Colt is the cult of personality too. Have you ever seen him throw? Pretty darn accurate. Ever seen Jason throw? Not accurate.

Really???? Then why did Colt go in the 6th round?? Just because he looked accurate against 2nd and 3rd rate talent doenst mean he is Joe Montana reincarnated.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

They say the NFL is a copy kat league, maybe Vinny and Dan think with Mark Sanchez at QB he could lead us in to the playoffs. Much like Ryan and Flacco did for their teams. the problem is we dont have the Ravens great defense and we play in the NFC East. No way we win more than 6 games with a rookie QB. We can win with a defense that can force turnovers and get 3 and outs. So if the best tackles are not there at 13th pick and we cant trade down then use it on the best LB or DE . If we don't think the LB OR DE is worthy than draft the best RB(WELLS or Moreno). We need to keep our picks and stop trading them away every year for washed up veteran players ( Jason Taylor, Pete Kendal). The front office panic when Daniels went down so we gave up a 2nd to Miami. We have know confidence in our back up players apparently, with D.Evans and C. Wilson who were waiting for their chance to start. Well we know how that deal worked out. The 2008 draft was the most picks we have had in many years. All of our draft picks made the roster except the punter. I thought we were learning to build through the draft. What do you guys think?

Flacco didnt lead his team anywhere the defense carried that team and the Falcons run game is what got them to the playoffs and copycat is spelled with a C just for future reference

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Smokescreen, and it's got Kiper fooled too. Good for the FO, maybe get some better value to trade down at # 13 or force someone elses hand to leave us a better player at # 13.

However, if I'm wrong and they move up or draft Sanchez at # 13, mine will be another TV in the shop.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Many people are like this, I don't understand why such hatred for Campbell. I guess these people didn't see wideouts dropping good passes or our old offensive linemen getting bulldozed during the second half of the season. I wish people would write long threads on why we should draft a stud o-lineman instead of all of this anti-Campbell stuff. It reminds me when Reed Doughty became Redskins enemy #1 and people stopped talking about him when he got hurt.

Its not "hate" of Campbell. He has his own sets of strenghts and weaknesses, just like any other QB. The problem is he doesnt get to use his natural strenghts in the WCO and his weaknesses are magnified 100 times. Bringing on Zorn and his WCO and expecting it to work with Campbell was a horrible decision on the FOs part... which brings me to the issue here"

Alot of you seem to look at this issue from the perspective of what SHOULD be done or makes sense to you - but it completely ignores the reality that our owner is Daniel Snyder and our GM is vinny Cerrato. Im looking at the issue of what we should do given the fact that our owner is DS and GM is VC.

About WRs... yes, his WRs dropped some balls, but i cant even count the number of times Campbell grossly over or under threw a wide open receiver for a short catch. Many times, our receivers and TEs cant get YAC because Campbell cant hit them in stride. While Campbell has deadly accuracy on his deep ball, hes horribly erratic on the short and medium-throws.

Anyway, as you said, if we keep Campbell as our QB in 2009, we absolutely need to give him O-line help. Campbell holds on to the ball way to long for this system and he absolutely needs more time. He won't be successful without a top5 O-line. If we don't give him serious O-line help, were ensuring his failure. (on the flip side, if we select a QB who makes quicker decisions and is more accurate on the short throws, allowing our receivers more completions and YAC, we're fine with the line we have and can focus on upgrading it coming seasons.)