Wanted: Playmakers

diehard · 04-19-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

No. You are not paying attention. What I believe is that you are mistaken in the points which you have made. That is all.

I don't mind taking shots for having an opinion. I was hoping someone had a clue what was needed to get this team over the hump. Jeez, what a way to treat newcomers...

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't understand the purpose of this thread.

to piss you off

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

I don't mind taking shots for having an opinion. I was hoping someone had a clue what was needed to get this team over the hump. Jeez, what a way to treat newcomers...

maybe if you didnt create a thread that had been dicuseed 75 times in the last 9 days then fill it with mindless garbage then people wouldn't bee so angry. (Havent seen schneed today so I thought I would the the site asshole)

P.S. Welcome to the board

SC Skins Fan · 04-19-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

You could say the same for 9/10 of the threads on the board...

If everybody jumped off a bridge ...

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

If everybody jumped off a bridge ...

The world would have less serial killers

diehard · 04-19-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

diehard, a person who admits that they are wrong is worthy of respect.

Someone who cannot admit that they are wrong is neither correct nor worthy of respect.

Your choice.

I'm wrong for doing a lot of things and thinking this site is free of snipers was one of them. My opinion that Moss is a better WR than Marshall, Cooley is a better TE than Sheffler, or that there is a reason REL played a integral part in PIT winning SB XL is can be debated. A WR is only good as his QB. But maybe I'm way off base about that. Hats off to you and your mods.

GMScud · 04-19-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

I'm wrong for doing a lot of things and thinking this site is free of snipers was one of them. My opinion that Moss is a better WR than Marshall, Cooley is a better TE than Sheffler, or that there is a reason REL played a integral part in PIT winning SB XL is can be debated. A WR is only good as his QB. But maybe I'm way off base about that. Hats off to you and your mods.

Diehard - obviously the issue of Jason Campbell is a polarizing one, especially on this website. I think the point the other posters are making is this topic is being discussed ad nausem in numerous other threads.

Sometimes people like to play thread police. Hell I'm guilty of it on occasion. Ultimately the mods are the only people who matter as far as thread-worthiness, and so far none of them have weighed in. So don't sweat it. Yet.

53Fan · 04-19-2009, 06:34 PM

On this board you're pretty much treated by the way you present yourself. New or old. If you're opinion is unpopular and the subject has been beaten to death, what kind of response would you expect? It's nothing personal, welcome to the board. From what I've seen, the merits of JC being our QB have been intelligently discussed numerous times. The problem is, one side decides to ignore facts instead of incorperating them into their argument to futher their opinion. Apparently the facts restrict the validity of their argument. I'll let you decide for yourself which side that is. Hopefully you're someone who is more interested in learning, than proving you're right, and is openminded enough to do so. Once again, welcome to the board and to answer your question, there are many things needed to get us over the hump but I don't believe changing QB's is one of them. One of these things would be to have enough patience for this offense which was just installed last year, to jell before making changes. Especially at a position as important as the QB.

Paintrain · 04-19-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Randle El may have been a playmaker with Pittsburgh. He has not been one with us.

As to your next point, Cutler and Favre did not make the playoffs last year. Your argument that you would rather have Cutler or Favre and make the playoffs is fallacious.

Next point: No, the team with Favre did not always have a chance, not when he threw for multiple interceptions in a game, as he often did.

Of course defense wins championships, unless a wild gunslinger quarterback screws it up by throwing interceptions. A good defense WANTS a qb who is careful with the ball, not a qb who gives the opposition points. The only time a gunslinger might be desirable is if one has a bad defense. Even then the winning percentage is not great.

Back to the basic point - history has shown that Super Bowls are more often won with qb's who are careful with the ball than those who are irresponsible with it. And I'd like to see us win another Super Bowl, not just put on a good offensive show only to have our hearts broken by a stupid interception.

You're right. Even great QB like Manning didn't find success in the post season until they stopped turning the ball over as much. There's a reason Favre hadn't gone back to a Super Bowl in his last 10 years, he believed too many of his own press clippings about being a 'gunslinger' and lived down to his reputation.
Someone smarter than me can probably find this on the interweb, but I don't think a QB who led the league in TD passes has ever won the Super Bowl.

Zerohero · 04-19-2009, 07:14 PM

Hmm i have yet to make a thread, but don't worry it will somehow involve Sanchez, Booing Campbell, Calling ARE a playmaker. Gimme a sec still laughing bout calling ARE a playmaker. Will be a poll too, with vague answers, still working on it.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerohero

Hmm i have yet to make a thread, but don't worry it will somehow involve Sanchez, Booing Campbell, Calling ARE a playmaker. Gimme a sec still laughing bout calling ARE a playmaker. Will be a poll too, with vague answers, still working on it.

And I will be glad to blow it up too

Dirtbag59 · 04-19-2009, 07:40 PM

On a side note I hate people that call themselves playmakers. Those are the type that could literally have someone sitting on them and they'd still be waving their arms for the ball. Then they'd go to the sidelines and tell the QB how open they were.

SFREDSKIN · 04-19-2009, 07:44 PM

The only way the Campbell bashing will end, is if Thomas and Kelly get with the program and help Campbell out.

SmootSmack · 04-19-2009, 07:48 PM

I don't get what this thread is about?

GMScud · 04-19-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't get what this thread is about?

Those were my exact words a few hours ago.

The purpose is blurred somewhere between Campbell's value, what will get us over the hump, and thread-worthiness. I dunno.

04-19-2009, 06:34 PM	#38
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Wanted: Playmakers On this board you're pretty much treated by the way you present yourself. New or old. If you're opinion is unpopular and the subject has been beaten to death, what kind of response would you expect? It's nothing personal, welcome to the board. From what I've seen, the merits of JC being our QB have been intelligently discussed numerous times. The problem is, one side decides to ignore facts instead of incorperating them into their argument to futher their opinion. Apparently the facts restrict the validity of their argument. I'll let you decide for yourself which side that is. Hopefully you're someone who is more interested in learning, than proving you're right, and is openminded enough to do so. Once again, welcome to the board and to answer your question, there are many things needed to get us over the hump but I don't believe changing QB's is one of them. One of these things would be to have enough patience for this offense which was just installed last year, to jell before making changes. Especially at a position as important as the QB. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

04-19-2009, 07:14 PM	#40
Zerohero Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: phoenix, az Age: 46 Posts: 901	Re: Wanted: Playmakers Hmm i have yet to make a thread, but don't worry it will somehow involve Sanchez, Booing Campbell, Calling ARE a playmaker. Gimme a sec still laughing bout calling ARE a playmaker. Will be a poll too, with vague answers, still working on it.

04-19-2009, 07:40 PM	#42
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Wanted: Playmakers On a side note I hate people that call themselves playmakers. Those are the type that could literally have someone sitting on them and they'd still be waving their arms for the ball. Then they'd go to the sidelines and tell the QB how open they were. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

04-19-2009, 07:44 PM	#43
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Wanted: Playmakers The only way the Campbell bashing will end, is if Thomas and Kelly get with the program and help Campbell out. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

04-19-2009, 07:48 PM	#44
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Wanted: Playmakers I don't get what this thread is about? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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