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Old 03-31-2004, 12:07 PM   #1
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There is no doubt that the NFL is big and powerful. However saying they have legal clout is contradicted by the facts. Just about every time they are in a courtroom, they lose. Tell me the last major court case the NFL won...

The way to get an expedited hearing is to convince the court that some kind of irreparable harm would be done if the expedited hearing were not granted. If Clarett had lost, it would have been his lawyers asking for the expedited schedule because without an appeal he would miss out on the draft in april and he would never get back the year he would have to wait until next year's draft. Well, the NFL can use the same argument that without an appeal being heard there is the potential for irreparable harm to their draft system.

So the court will hear the case and it may or may not issue a ruling prior to the draft. If the NFL loses here, it can postpone the draft while it tries to appeal to the Supreme Court. Just becaue the draft is scheudled for april at the moment does not mean the NFL can't postpone it. And if Clarett loses, his lawyers will and for an injunction preventing the NFL from holding its draft until the Clarett side can seek an apeal in the Supreme Court.

This case is not over yet. And that has nothing at all to do with the NFL's "influence over the court system".

I'm still waiting to hear the last major court case the NFL won...
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Old 03-31-2004, 12:38 PM   #2
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However saying they have legal clout is contradicted by the facts....
I'm still waiting to hear the last major court case the NFL won...
Ha--HA
Hey Sportscurmudgeon your so called "facts" are very wrong!
Here is a very big case the NFL won on appeal:
On March 27th , 1996, the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia reversed a lower court when NFL Players filed an antitrust lawsuit against the league and won $30.3 million in triple damages. But the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia and later the U.S. Supreme Court threw out the award on the ground that multiple-employer groups are shielded from such lawsuits. They ruled the NFL is exempt from Anti-trust laws.

That is a major ruling saying the NFL is exempt from Anti-trust laws, wouldn't you say Mr. Facts- man?

Also to say the NFL got an expedited appeal hearing because they convinced the court that some kind of irreparable harm would be done to the game is a bunch crap. The earlier court case making 18 y.o. players draft eligible does not mean that any NFL team HAS to draft them. Each team can say these players are just not good enough to play in the NFL. The "FACT" that USC WR Williams will be drafted in the first top 6 picks blows the NFL's case out of the water. Some 19 and 20 year old players are ready and good enough to play in the NFL.
Are you still waiting?

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Old 03-31-2004, 12:44 PM   #3
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Anyone else remember the famous NFL vs. USFL case where the USFL sued for like $1.7 billion but ended up with $3?
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I think the USFL case they were awarded 1 dollar. And due to late fees and the NFL not paying it, the new figure ended up $3.17, which the USFL Commish never cashed, he just hung it on his wall.
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Actually, in the USFL case, damages were assessed at $1.00, but, since it was an anti-monopoly trade case, the damages were trebled to $3.00 with interest of 17 cents.
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Old 03-31-2004, 01:15 PM   #6
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Actually, in the USFL case, damages were assessed at $1.00, but, since it was an anti-monopoly trade case, the damages were trebled to $3.00 with interest of 17 cents.
That's right. It was trebled and now Chet Simmons (former USFL commissioner and ESPN CEO) has it hanging in his office

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Old 03-31-2004, 02:43 PM   #8
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There is no doubt that the NFL is big and powerful. However saying they have legal clout is contradicted by the facts. Just about every time they are in a courtroom, they lose. Tell me the last major court case the NFL won...

The way to get an expedited hearing is to convince the court that some kind of irreparable harm would be done if the expedited hearing were not granted. If Clarett had lost, it would have been his lawyers asking for the expedited schedule because without an appeal he would miss out on the draft in april and he would never get back the year he would have to wait until next year's draft. Well, the NFL can use the same argument that without an appeal being heard there is the potential for irreparable harm to their draft system.

So the court will hear the case and it may or may not issue a ruling prior to the draft. If the NFL loses here, it can postpone the draft while it tries to appeal to the Supreme Court. Just becaue the draft is scheudled for april at the moment does not mean the NFL can't postpone it. And if Clarett loses, his lawyers will and for an injunction preventing the NFL from holding its draft until the Clarett side can seek an apeal in the Supreme Court.

This case is not over yet. And that has nothing at all to do with the NFL's "influence over the court system".

I'm still waiting to hear the last major court case the NFL won...
Excellent point. If the league had as much legal clout as the previous poster implied, Al Davis wouldn't kick their butts down the courthouse steps every two weeks.

The league may or may not win this one, I think the court's willingness to expedite the hearing has more to do with respect for continuity within the league. If the draft occurs and then the league wins, is the ruling rendered moot by the fact that Williams and Clarett are in the league? Are these two the only players who will be allowed to circumvent the rule? Is the entire draft invalid? If so, will the Vikings get their pick in on time during the second draft?
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Brudlee!

That will be the question of the Draft! Will the Vikes get their pick in?
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