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Old 04-28-2009, 04:32 PM   #1
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I'm just wondering what the Redskins Fans think about Ladell Betts. The guy is a great character piece in the locker room, He does virtually anything the coaches ask, and is pretty versatile, but my thought is that He and Portis are the same mould of RB essentially.. He doesn't have the breakout speed or the line jarring bulk that We need at a #2 back.... We are going to need a RB that can shoulder some of the load so Portis can get some sort of break and have enough steam in the late to post season, and unless the guy has a serious blossoming/break-out, I don't see it.
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:37 PM   #2
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

Depends on the compensation we would receive for Betts. And who would be our 2nd RB. I don't really see a viable option on the roster to spell Portis or be a featured back if he were to go down.
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:51 PM   #3
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

Betts wouldn't garner much value at this point and unless we replaced him w/ an upgrade, probably from FA, i don't see any reason to jetison him. Betts needs to stop fumbling regularly...IMO that is his real weakness. The rest is up to Zorn using Betts smarter i.e. give the guy several series in a row downhill running and more passes out of the backfield and i guarentee Warpathers will start singing his praises.

...to the point about our need for a change up to CP my gut has been we should go the other direction, a bruiser who will pound on the defense early in a game so when CP comes in he can slash and burn his way to big yardage. I hoped Betts would take on that role...maybe add 10lbs cuz his frame would hold up and then just pound on the defense.
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:52 PM   #4
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

I think we should adopt the Chargers running scheme:

1.LT-Portis
2.Sproles-Alridge or Dorsey
3. J.Hester- Sellers
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:58 PM   #5
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

Expendable . . . Yeah maybe.

But there is really no dire need for a change at the position.

I will say that in the next couple years we should bring in a talented young guy to get in the mix, an after a coupe years replace Portis, much the way the Giants did with Brandon Jacobs.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:07 PM   #6
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

And who do you propose to be the 2nd RB? Rock, Marcus Mason (if we resign him), other?
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:07 PM   #7
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

I don't know that he's expendable really. He still can be a valuable asset to the team. I do think that sooner than later we're going to have to start looking to the future. I wish we would have spent one of our later round picks on a RB (let him play teams for a year if necessary). Not a change of pace back, but a guy who could be a 15-20 carries a game back within a couple of years
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:17 PM   #8
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

They gave him 4.6 rushes a game this year and its hard to get something going if you do not get a feel for the game and thats hard to do with so few runs. When he signed his new deal I thought they would work him into the games more than they have. I have never seen him and Portis on the field at the same time and you would think they could design something with them together.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:22 PM   #9
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

Betts is only expendable if we find someone better or equal to Betts's ability. If we traded him our RB position would immediatley become a weakness, given that we have unproductive (Cartwright) or unproven RB's (Aldrige, Dorsey). So to answer your question, no I don't think Betts is expendable. We need him more than he needs us.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:39 PM   #10
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

Betts is quite expendable. I just don't see anyone we like on the current 84-man enough to make me think he doesn't have the No. 2 RB role again this year.

I think if we are going to make a deep playoff run, we'll find a way to add a really talented guy (not unlike Lorenzo Booker with the Eagles last year, except hopefully with a little more size) who is better than Betts.
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Old 04-28-2009, 05:46 PM   #11
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

Now we have the legendary Marcus Mason he sure is...
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They gave him 4.6 rushes a game this year and its hard to get something going if you do not get a feel for the game and thats hard to do with so few runs. When he signed his new deal I thought they would work him into the games more than they have. I have never seen him and Portis on the field at the same time and you would think they could design something with them together.
Gibbs used to use them together all the time in 2005, but that was more to cover for a WR deficiency.

Zorn got them both into the game together a few times at the beginning of the season, and it was kinda fun for awhile, but when Betts got hurt and missed that month, Zorn forget to use him altogether. Thus, expendable.
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Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?

I was kinda kicking this idea around in my head today. I worry that the Eagles and Giants have really upgraded alot this offseason and the Redskins finished behind these teams last season so it is going to be tougher this year. The Redskins have signed Haynesworth and drafted Orakpo and I think that will help alot but I don't think that it is enough to win out over the other 3 teams in the division (maybe the Cowboys because I think they took a few steps backward). I think the Redskins have to do more so this is my unqualified attempt to make them better. First they need a lb and I think they should go to Marcus Washington agent and attempt to resign him, if he doesn't want to come back tell them they are going to check out Leroy Hill and maybe Washington will realize that he doesn't have alot of options and will resign cheap. I think that is the only weak link left to fill on defense so thay need to turn to the offense now. I would like for the Redskins to make an offer to Levi Jones when he is cut by the Bengals to fill the hole at RT if it is cost efective. Now to the Ladell Betts part. I can't beleive that I'm saying this because I'm not a huge fan of his anticts but I wonder if the Bengals would trade Chad Johnson to the Redskins for Betts,Thomas or Kelly & a conditional 3rd round draft pick. Marvin Lewis always went after former Redskins when they were cut because he coached here and the Bengals have a need at RB. If Betts were traded I would look into the health of Duece Mcallister who is old but hasn't played alot the last few years because he was injured. The Saints released him early and I haven't heard of any intrest in him from other teams so maybe he isn't healthy i'm not sure though. It may be laughable but those were my thoughts today.
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I was kinda kicking this idea around in my head today. I worry that the Eagles and Giants have really upgraded alot this offseason and the Redskins finished behind these teams last season so it is going to be tougher this year. The Redskins have signed Haynesworth and drafted Orakpo and I think that will help alot but I don't think that it is enough to win out over the other 3 teams in the division (maybe the Cowboys because I think they took a few steps backward). I think the Redskins have to do more so this is my unqualified attempt to make them better. First they need a lb and I think they should go to Marcus Washington agent and attempt to resign him, if he doesn't want to come back tell them they are going to check out Leroy Hill and maybe Washington will realize that he doesn't have alot of options and will resign cheap. I think that is the only weak link left to fill on defense so thay need to turn to the offense now. I would like for the Redskins to make an offer to Levi Jones when he is cut by the Bengals to fill the hole at RT if it is cost efective. Now to the Ladell Betts part. I can't beleive that I'm saying this because I'm not a huge fan of his anticts but I wonder if the Bengals would trade Chad Johnson to the Redskins for Betts,Thomas or Kelly & a conditional 3rd round draft pick. Marvin Lewis always went after former Redskins when they were cut because he coached here and the Bengals have a need at RB. If Betts were traded I would look into the health of Duece Mcallister who is old but hasn't played alot the last few years because he was injured. The Saints released him early and I haven't heard of any intrest in him from other teams so maybe he isn't healthy i'm not sure though. It may be laughable but those were my thoughts today.
The Deuce is done my friend. Betts is way better these days. But, I do believe that sooner than later we will need to find a replacement for Betts(1-2yrs), who in turn would eventually (1-2yrs)after replacing Betts as #2, would replace Portis as the #1 back. Remember Betts is 30, Portis 27 going on 28 THIS SEASON.
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Betts wouldn't garner much value at this point and unless we replaced him w/ an upgrade, probably from FA, i don't see any reason to jetison him. Betts needs to stop fumbling regularly...IMO that is his real weakness. The rest is up to Zorn using Betts smarter i.e. give the guy several series in a row downhill running and more passes out of the backfield and i guarentee Warpathers will start singing his praises.

...to the point about our need for a change up to CP my gut has been we should go the other direction, a bruiser who will pound on the defense early in a game so when CP comes in he can slash and burn his way to big yardage. I hoped Betts would take on that role...maybe add 10lbs cuz his frame would hold up and then just pound on the defense.
I kind of liked what the Ravens did last year with McClain and Neals, they had two guys in there that tipped the scales at 280+ and just pounded the defensive lines into the mud, if Sellers can work on his fumbling issues, would it be feasable to throw Yoder back there as Seller's FB, or the other way around?
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