Holmgren on Campbell

The Goat · 05-08-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Excellent article. Holmgren's insight should be appreciated by all who heard or read his remarks.

Word...kind of wish he'd have been at the park and made those remarks like 3 months ago lol. I think Holmgren is quietly noting how special Zorn is when it comes to developing QBs. Does anyone think Hesselbeck could be a pro-bowl qb w/o Zorn's mentoring? I don't for a second...and likewise Zorn will take JC to a higher level.

Paintrain · 05-08-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Word...kind of wish he'd have been at the park and made those remarks like 3 months ago lol. I think Holmgren is quietly noting how special Zorn is when it comes to developing QBs. Does anyone think Hesselbeck could be a pro-bowl qb w/o Zorn's mentoring? I don't for a second...and likewise Zorn will take JC to a higher level.

From your fingers to God's eyes. For the record, I agree with you. I expect JC to have a strong year this year with breakout seasons from Thomas and Davis.

53Fan · 05-08-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

From your fingers to God's eyes. For the record, I agree with you. I expect JC to have a strong year this year with breakout seasons from Thomas and Davis.

I expect the same thing. I think we have a pretty good thing going right now and don't know it yet. To answer Goats question, no. W/o Zorn Hasselbach would not be the QB he is today IMO.

redskins1974 · 05-08-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

From your fingers to God's eyes. For the record, I agree with you. I expect JC to have a strong year this year with breakout seasons from Thomas and Davis.

I hope for a strong year as well, but this is the same stuff i was hearing last year about a 'JC breakout year". understanding he's changed coaches and offenses several times, however, a QB runs the offense. and we must be better then 16.6 ppg. that is awful. another year like last year and he'll be another teams backup in 2010.

Ruhskins · 05-08-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins1974

I hope for a strong year as well, but this is the same stuff i was hearing last year about a 'JC breakout year". understanding he's changed coaches and offenses several times, however, a QB runs the offense. and we must be better then 16.6 ppg. that is awful. another year like last year and he'll be another teams backup in 2010.

I think anyone who was hoping for a breakout year for JC last year was delusional.

DIRTEE · 05-08-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think anyone who was hoping for a breakout year for JC last year was delusional.

Last year was his best season as a pro.

Lotus · 05-08-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins1974

I hope for a strong year as well, but this is the same stuff i was hearing last year about a 'JC breakout year". understanding he's changed coaches and offenses several times, however, a QB runs the offense. and we must be better then 16.6 ppg. that is awful. another year like last year and he'll be another teams backup in 2010.

Leaving aside yards and TD's, JC did have a breakout year in terms of becoming turnover-stingy. Perhaps this year the yards and TD's will come as well.

redskins1974 · 05-08-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Leaving aside yards and TD's, JC did have a breakout year in terms of becoming turnover-stingy. Perhaps this year the yards and TD's will come as well.

He had less picks then in previous years, but i dont think anyone would call it a breakout year by any stretch. Bottom line is we were 28th in the league or so in scoring offense, and that falls mainly on the QB.

DIRTEE · 05-08-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins1974

He had less picks then in previous years, but i dont think anyone would call it a breakout year by any stretch. Bottom line is we were 28th in the league or so in scoring offense, and that falls mainly on the QB.

I wouldn't put it on Campbell's shoulders, it goes on the entire offense. I would mainly put it on adapting to new playcalling.

redskins1974 · 05-09-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DIRTEE

I wouldn't put it on Campbell's shoulders, it goes on the entire offense. I would mainly put it on adapting to new playcalling.

an offense is typically only as good as its QB...typically.

CRedskinsRule · 05-09-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins1974

He had less picks then in previous years, but i dont think anyone would call it a breakout year by any stretch. Bottom line is we were 28th in the league or so in scoring offense, and that falls mainly on the QB.

Actually, Jason had had a problem with fumbling/ints so yes for that it was a breakout year as Lotus said. You then harped on yards and TDs, which Lotus also said he was not including, but hopes for that part this year. Also, our whole offense stalled at the 50 to 20, and even Zorn acknowledged that that was an area HE was looking to improve his playcalling in. I don't see a redzone stat on pro football reference, but I think our numbers were not below average, we just didn't get there enough.

redskins1974 · 05-09-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Actually, Jason had had a problem with fumbling/ints so yes for that it was a breakout year as Lotus said. You then harped on yards and TDs, which Lotus also said he was not including, but hopes for that part this year. Also, our whole offense stalled at the 50 to 20, and even Zorn acknowledged that that was an area HE was looking to improve his playcalling in. I don't see a redzone stat on pro football reference, but I think our numbers were not below average, we just didn't get there enough.

we were 21st in total yards....thats below average. 28th in scoring....

The Goat · 05-08-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

From your fingers to God's eyes. For the record, I agree with you. I expect JC to have a strong year this year with breakout seasons from Thomas and Davis.

I somehow always forget about Davis...but yeah he should be a beast.

Lotus · 05-08-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Word...kind of wish he'd have been at the park and made those remarks like 3 months ago lol. I think Holmgren is quietly noting how special Zorn is when it comes to developing QBs. Does anyone think Hesselbeck could be a pro-bowl qb w/o Zorn's mentoring? I don't for a second...and likewise Zorn will take JC to a higher level.

Nope. Zorn very much helped MH be who he is today.

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