Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

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Originally Posted by Nflnick11

the point is that our defense put us in position to score, but JC or shuisham couldn't come thru, whereas flacco and the ravens could get some points

There is this thing called consistency in making arguments which you don't seem to follow. You clearly stated...

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

kerry collins is better than JC and he's really the only subpar QB o and flacco that i would consider..flacco had no receivers and still did great, he took chances and won games for the ravens..

Now you changed your argument from "Flacco won games for the Ravens", to "whereas Flacco and the Ravens could get some points". Now this is just a small portion of your argument that I can counter by using those "CRAAAZY" stats.

Here's a rough look at the 2008 Ravens and their performance against other teams. If Flacco indeed "won" games for the Ravens, then I am to assume that this means he produced points at the end of the game that directly led to the win (since to you the fact that they had an elite scoring defense doesn't mean crap to you).

Cincy – W – no 4th qtr TD
Clev – W – no 4th qtr TD (defense holds opponent to low score)
Pit – L – no TDs thrown
Ind – L – no TDs thrown
Mia – W – no 4th qtr TD (defense holds opponent to low score)
Oak – W – no 4th qtr TD (defense holds opponent to low score)
Clev – W – 4th qtr TD thrown (strong showing by offense)
Hou – W – blow out win (defense holds opponent to low score)
NYG – L – blowout loss – no 4th qtr TD thrown
Phil – W - 4th qtr TD thrown (strong showing by offense/defense)
Cin – W – blow out win (defense holds opponent to low score)
Was – W – 4th qtr TD thrown (defense holds opponent to low score)
Pit – L – no TDs thrown
Dal – W – 4th qtr TD thrown (strong showing by offense/defense)
Jax – W – no TDs thrown (defense holds opponent to low score)

I looked at 4th Qtr TDs thrown by Flacco (yes I know I am simplifying this a bit, disregarding his performance that indirectly resulted in points). Now, in the two games I bolded, Flacco did have a strong offensive showing, the opposing teams put up points against the Ravens, and the ability of Flacco to put up points on the board were important to the win.

However, in most of the other games, Flacco did not have to "win" the game as you put it, most of the time the Ravens defense held the opposing team under 14 pts.; and then there are those games where they lost.