HOF Candidates

irish · 07-09-2009, 10:46 AM

I dont think off the field stuff should count toward getting into the HOF. Its about football not about being a great guy. If that was the case there would be a lot less people in there.

IMO, the HOF isnt what it used to be. I think the need to indict people every year has diluted the Hall. I think some years there just arent any players worthy of all time great status (they were very good but not HOF great) but they get considered and enshrined.

Paintrain · 07-09-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

I dont think off the field stuff should count toward getting into the HOF. Its about football not about being a great guy. If that was the case there would be a lot less people in there.

IMO, the HOF isnt what it used to be. I think the need to indict people every year has diluted the Hall. I think some years there just arent any players worthy of all time great status (they were very good but not HOF great) but they get considered and enshrined.

You probably meant induct not indict but I got what you were saying.

What examples of some years where non-greats were inducted can you cite to support what you are saying?

MTK · 07-09-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

You probably meant induct not indict but I got what you were saying.

What examples of some years where non-greats were inducted can you cite to support what you are saying?

Name a Redskin

Paintrain · 07-09-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Name a Redskin

Are you channeling Peter King today?

irish · 07-09-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Name a Redskin

If the off field stuff counts (as some think it should) then GP Marshall shouldnt be in as he was a racist.

A Skin - Art Monk

Others off the top of my head - Warren Moon, Stallworth & Swann, Thurman Thomas, Fran Tarkenton

I guess I see the HOF as a place for a few elites not for a few elites and other very goods.

MTK · 07-09-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I guess I see the HOF as a place for a few elites not for a few elites and other very goods.

There would be debate no matter where you draw the line. Overall I think the HOF voters do a good job. Obviously there's a lot of subjectivity sprinkled in and it needs to be that way since stats alone as we all know don't tell the whole story.

irish · 07-09-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

There would be debate no matter where you draw the line. Overall I think the HOF voters do a good job. Obviously there's a lot of subjectivity sprinkled in and it needs to be that way since stats alone as we all know don't tell the whole story.

I agree. No matter how its done there will be complaints and the way its done now is as good as any.

SmootSmack · 07-09-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

If the off field stuff counts (as some think it should) then GP Marshall shouldnt be in as he was a racist.

A Skin - Art Monk

Others off the top of my head - Warren Moon, Stallworth & Swann, Thurman Thomas, Fran Tarkenton

I guess I see the HOF as a place for a few elites not for a few elites and other very goods.

Speaking of GPM...did you know that 77 years ago today the Boston Braves were formed?

Anyhow, why don't you think some of these guys you've mentioned should be in? Mainly Moon, Thomas, and Tarkenton.

irish · 07-09-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Speaking of GPM...did you know that 77 years ago today the Boston Braves were formed?

Anyhow, why don't you think some of these guys you've mentioned should be in? Mainly Moon, Thomas, and Tarkenton.

I didnt know that. Thanks for the info.

I think they were very good players with nice numbers but as all time greats I just dont think they are HOF worthy. As I mentioned in a previous post, I see the HOF as a place for a few elites. As the HOF currently enshrines players these guys fit in fine but if it was up to me there'd only be half (at max) the players in that are currently there now.

I admit that my way is totally unrealistic as there just wouldnt be enough players in to make it a place worth visiting and going years without players being enshrined wouldnt work because Canton counts on people filling their hotels and restaurants every year to attend the ceremony.

GTripp0012 · 07-09-2009, 01:15 PM

Honest question: should LaDainian Tomlinson be a hall of famer? How about Champ Bailey?

That, to me, is the big question of our era. Obviously, Manning and Brady are easy, along with Brett Favre, Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, Tony Gonzalez and Michael Strahan. But there's other players who should be hall of famers who you simply couldn't put in if you limit the honor to only the best players ever.

Do you draw the line at those 5 time pro bowlers? Or do they get in too?

07-09-2009, 10:46 AM	#1
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: HOF Candidates I dont think off the field stuff should count toward getting into the HOF. Its about football not about being a great guy. If that was the case there would be a lot less people in there. IMO, the HOF isnt what it used to be. I think the need to indict people every year has diluted the Hall. I think some years there just arent any players worthy of all time great status (they were very good but not HOF great) but they get considered and enshrined.

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GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: HOF Candidates Honest question: should LaDainian Tomlinson be a hall of famer? How about Champ Bailey? That, to me, is the big question of our era. Obviously, Manning and Brady are easy, along with Brett Favre, Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, Tony Gonzalez and Michael Strahan. But there's other players who should be hall of famers who you simply couldn't put in if you limit the honor to only the best players ever. Do you draw the line at those 5 time pro bowlers? Or do they get in too? __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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