Antonio Pierce facing gun charges(Burress incident)

[SBXVII]

Lets see....law is to have an unregistered gun automatic 3yrs jail. What is Buress going to say if he testifies?....someone planted it on him? It's not his? I know this has been run into the ground but can someone refresh my memory....can they give him the yrs and suspend all the time for this charge in NY?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Lets see....law is to have an unregistered gun automatic 3yrs jail. What is Buress going to say if he testifies?....someone planted it on him? It's not his? I know this has been run into the ground but can someone refresh my memory....can they give him the yrs and suspend all the time for this charge in NY?

Burress had purchased the gun legally and can document that the permit renewal form was never forwarded to him in New Jersey, Brafman said.

I found that interesting.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Angry

, Brafman said.

I found that interesting.

Thats like someone using the "I didn't know" excuse for missing a court date. At the end of the day, it was PBs responsibility to make sure everything was taken care of. He decided not to register the gun. Now he has to face the music.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Thats like someone using the "I didn't know" excuse for missing a court date. At the end of the day, it was PBs responsibility to make sure everything was taken care of. He decided not to register the gun. Now he has to face the music.

Hold on, the gun was registered. The registration ws not renewed. I am not going to fault the guy for that when I am just as guilty of not renewing the tags on my car because I did not recieve the Registration renewal in the mail. Am I a bad person? Did I intentionally decide not to renew my registration? No, small things like this slip all of the time.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Angry

Hold on, the gun was registered. The registration ws not renewed. I am not going to fault the guy for that when I am just as guilty of not renewing the tags on my car because I did not recieve the Registration renewal in the mail. Am I a bad person? Did I intentionally decide not to renew my registration? No, small things like this slip all of the time.

Wait a minute Angry! Nobody said you or Burress are bad people. All I'm saying is it was HIS responsibility to register the gun. Its not the states job to make sure he got his paperwork straight.

And to your point about tags, If you get caught with dead plates, you will get a ticket. Claiming you didn't get the renewal form in the mail is a bad excuse and 100% of the time you will still get into trouble.

My facts may not be right but I was under the impression that his gun WAS registered but it was in a different state. If, in fact, the gun registation was just "expired", then I think this whole thing is a joke. If he never bothered to register his gun in the state he was currently living in, well, That was HIS decision. Now he has to live with the consequences.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Wait a minute Angry! Nobody said you or Burress are bad people. All I'm saying is it was HIS responsibility to register the gun. Its not the states job to make sure he got his paperwork straight.

And to your point about tags, If you get caught with dead plates, you will get a ticket. Claiming you didn't get the renewal form in the mail is a bad excuse and 100% of the time you will still get into trouble.

My facts may not be right but I was under the impression that his gun WAS registered but it was in a different state. If, in fact, the gun registation was just "expired", then I think this whole thing is a joke. If he never bothered to register his gun in the state he was currently living in, well, That was HIS decision. Now he has to live with the consequences.

You are correct I would have still gotten a ticket or had to pay a fine, but they would not even have considered throwing my ass in jail for even one night, much less three years. I understand the strict gun laws thing in NYC...I do. Here is my problem why are they trying to thow the man under the bus when there was no ill intent. There was no pre meditated crime. He ended up shooting himself. I guarentee you that he learned from this mess and he will not do it again. It is not going to take three years in a prison to punish him for this, he punished himself already.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Angry

You are correct I would have still gotten a ticket or had to pay a fine, but they would not even have considered throwing my ass in jail for even one night, much less three years. I understand the strict gun laws thing in NYC...I do. Here is my problem why are they trying to thow the man under the bus when there was no ill intent. There was no pre meditated crime. He ended up shooting himself. I guarentee you that he learned from this mess and he will not do it again. It is not going to take three years in a prison to punish him for this, he punished himself already.

See, we are on the same page in that regard. The prison thing is more about a deterent(SP?) for others than a punishment for PB. PB is a big name and they want to use him as an example to show how tough they are on gun crimes. Whether or not he deserves Jail time is not for me to say but I do think he has to face the consequences of his decision to caryy the gun that night.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Angry

You are correct I would have still gotten a ticket or had to pay a fine, but they would not even have considered throwing my ass in jail for even one night, much less three years. I understand the strict gun laws thing in NYC...I do. Here is my problem why are they trying to thow the man under the bus when there was no ill intent. There was no pre meditated crime. He ended up shooting himself. I guarentee you that he learned from this mess and he will not do it again. It is not going to take three years in a prison to punish him for this, he punished himself already.

Now I have a lot of questions but here's my take of what you guys are trying to say....

PB purchased a gun legally in NY.
He lives in NJ.
Never registered it in NJ.
Carried firearm across state lines.
Fired his gun in a no shooting zone (probably) in a crouded bar.
Injured himself.