The President, a police officer, and a harvard professor walk into a bar...

[12thMan]

I hear Gates and Crowley might go to a Red Sox game together. That'd be pretty cool if it happens.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I hear Gates and Crowley might go to a Red Sox game together. That'd be pretty cool if it happens.

Really? I don't think that would be cool. I think it would be the continuation of a dumb charade. I'm pretty sure Gates and Crowley aren't exactly pals. I mean, maybe they now have a mutual respect, maybe, but I doubt it goes any further than that. This situation should just go away.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Really? I don't think that would be cool. I think it would be the continuation of a dumb charade. I'm pretty sure Gates and Crowley aren't exactly pals. I mean, maybe they now have a mutual respect, maybe, but I doubt it goes any further than that. This situation should just go away.

I don't think they are pals either, but neither do I don't think it's a dumb charade unless the media turns it into a circus. Otherwise I see no problem with it.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I don't think they are pals either, but neither do I don't think it's a dumb charade unless the media turns it into a circus. Otherwise I see no problem with it.

If they're not friends and they plan on going to a baseball game together, how is that not a charade? The media (and Obama) has already turned this into a circus. That's why I said this situation needs to just go away.

Plus, if they're in the stands together, that will open the door for any fan with an opinion (and alcohol) to shout stuff at them. I think it is without question a charade, and a bad idea as well, IMO.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

If they're not friends and they plan on going to a baseball game together, how is that not a charade? The media (and Obama) has already turned this into a circus. That's why I said this situation needs to just go away.

Plus, if they're in the stands together, that will open the door for any fan with an opinion (and alcohol) to shout stuff at them. I think it is without question a charade, and a bad idea as well, IMO.

Well maybe you and I think it needs to go away or that it's a bad idea, but who else feels that way? I mean, serious question. Look, race and race relations is a complicated thing. We tend to learn incident by incident. Just because this thing started out messy, which it did, doesn't mean that now Gates and Crowley can't act like grown ups going forward. Some people just might be watching to see if that's even possible. I think those who look for the negative will find it. (not talking about you, by the way) And those that are hoping for a positive outcome, will look for it.

Personally, I could care less if they went to a baseball game or Hooters. I think it's "cool" that they've moved on.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well maybe you and I think it needs to go away or that it's a bad idea, but who else feels that way? I mean, serious question. Look, race and race relations is a complicated thing. We tend to learn incident by incident. Just because this thing started out messy, which it did, doesn't mean that now Gates and Crowley can't act B
like grown ups going forward. Some people just might be watching to see if that's even possible. I think those who look for the negative will find it. (not talking about you, by the way) And those that are hoping for a positive outcome, will look for it.

Personally, I could care less if they went to a baseball game or Hooters. I think it's "cool" that they've moved on.

I pretty much agree, my only contension is that I don't think them going to a Sox game would be cool, and that it's a charade. Them pretending to be pals and attending a baseball game together does nothing for race relations IMO. The fact that a Harvard Professor and a police seargant are acting like grown ups and moving on shouldn't be praised, it should be expected. They don't need to parade around in public to move forward.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I pretty much agree, my only contension is that I don't think them going to a Sox game would be cool, and that it's a charade. Them pretending to be pals and attending a baseball game together does nothing for race relations IMO. The fact that a Harvard Professor and a police seargant are acting like grown ups and moving on shouldn't be praised, it should be expected. They don't need to parade around in public to move forward.

Hmm...I can see where you're coming from. If it was something more private, say, at one of their respective homes it would come off as being less pretentious. I definitely see your point though.