I think Jim Zorn is a great head football coach.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

He is a teacher. He was a player. He has a great passion for the game.

He knows how to talk and listen to the team. It's a quality many NFL coaches don't have.

The key to this season is the development of the offense and we all know that. The burden rests on Zorn's shoulders.

I just wanted to say that I think that Jim Zorn is moving this team in a very positive direction. We are lucky to have him. He is going to be the next great coach of the NFL!

That is my prediction.

Nice thread! I couldn't agree more! I think we have a winner here and I like the direction this team is going. Zorn could be the best thing since Gibbs 1. I hope we give him time to show it!

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Zorn could be the best thing since Gibbs 1. I hope we give him time to show it!

I am hopefull too.
I will wait another season, but my primary concern with the guy was his inability to adjust play calling mid season when it was clearly evident that defensive coordinators figured him out.
I think some of this was due to him only installing a base package....hopefully he has a full slate of plays that is installed that includes some misdirection rather than the basic gibbs run scheme + basic west coast passing.

What is really needed are reverses, shotgun, draws, WR quick screens, etc to spread the secondary out as to not crowd the box.

Most of our offense last year did not suprise anyone...especially after the first couple months...remember, we went 2-6 after an almost sure playoff level start of 6-2. That to me aint great coaching.

The good thing is any improvement in playcalling should show dramatic improvement in offensive production.
If Zorn is depending on the Skins offense to score due to having more talent and more execution alone, we will be in for a long season.
The reality is he needs to scheme better and make better play calling adjustments before I call him a great coach.

The jury is still out on Zorn

I wish him all the best, our dreams depend on him being better than last year

[stu_nna]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I am hopefull too.
I will wait another season, but my primary concern with the guy was his inability to adjust play calling mid season when it was clearly evident that defensive coordinators figured him out.
I think some of this was due to him only installing a base package....hopefully he has a full slate of plays that is installed that includes some misdirection rather than the basic gibbs run scheme + basic west coast passing.

What is really needed are reverses, shotgun, draws, WR quick screens, etc to spread the secondary out as to not crowd the box.

Most of our offense last year did not suprise anyone...especially after the first couple months...remember, we went 2-6 after an almost sure playoff level start of 6-2. That to me aint great coaching.

The good thing is any improvement in playcalling should show dramatic improvement in offensive production.
If Zorn is depending on the Skins offense to score due to having more talent and more execution alone, we will be in for a long season.
The reality is he needs to scheme better and make better play calling adjustments before I call him a great coach.

The jury is still out on Zorn

I wish him all the best, our dreams depend on him being better than last year

Not sure i agree with some of your points on Zorn. Frontline injuries and bad pass protection limit play calling ability. Reverses and fakes are gimmiks only to be pulled out once in awhile. Last year we had screens, slants, and alot of WR's catching the ball at the line of scrimmage. His play calling has alot to do with the pocket collasping and not being able to throw the ball deep. Couple that with the fact that JC has a slow release and takes long strides makes it tough to call long yardage pass plays.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by stu_nna

Not sure i agree with some of your points on Zorn. Frontline injuries and bad pass protection limit play calling ability. Reverses and fakes are gimmiks only to be pulled out once in awhile. Last year we had screens, slants, and alot of WR's catching the ball at the line of scrimmage. His play calling has alot to do with the pocket collasping and not being able to throw the ball deep. Couple that with the fact that JC has a slow release and takes long strides makes it tough to call long yardage pass plays.

I think that's the point. Every friggin team is bruised and battered down the stretch, but good coaching can overcome those obstacles. He was clearly unable to adjust to the injuries and the record reflected that.

There are going to be more injuries this year, so I hope he's got some contingency plans ready.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Nice thread! I couldn't agree more! I think we have a winner here and I like the direction this team is going. Zorn could be the best thing since Gibbs 1. I hope we give him time to show it!

You're talking about a man who is a great leader of men, who won 3 SB's with 3 different QB's and in his day was the master of the halftime adjustment. Let's not go overboard here....

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You're talking about a man who is a great leader of men, who won 3 SB's with 3 different QB's and in his day was the master of the halftime adjustment. Let's not go overboard here....

COULD BE skinsfan69. As you said, the jury is still out but I do think Zorn could become a great coach. I have no more respect for anyone than Joe Gibbs, but Gibbs didn't start out too great either. Gibbs wasn't judged a great coach in his first year either, but he sure turned out to be one. I never said he would be Joe Gibbs, I said he could be the best SINCE Gibbs.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

COULD BE skinsfan69. As you said, the jury is still out but I do think Zorn could become a great coach. I have no more respect for anyone than Joe Gibbs, but Gibbs didn't start out too great either. Gibbs wasn't judged a great coach in his first year either, but he sure turned out to be one. I never said he would be Joe Gibbs, I said he could be the best SINCE Gibbs.

At least Gibbs was a very good offensive coordinator in San Diego before joining the Skins and even though he started out 0-5, he was able to right the ship enough to finish the season 7-9. THAT was a sign of potential greatness to come. Starting 6-2 and ending 2-6 gives the exact opposite impression. But we'll see soon enough.

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

At least Gibbs was a very good offensive coordinator in San Diego before joining the Skins and even though he started out 0-5, he was able to right the ship enough to finish the season 7-9. THAT was a sign of potential greatness to come. Starting 6-2 and ending 2-6 gives the exact opposite impression. But we'll see soon enough.

I like your points, but the original post on Gibbs' first year record was actually the correct one--he did finish 8-8, not 7-9.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by BringBackJoeT

I like your points, but the original post on Gibbs' first year record was actually the correct one--he did finish 8-8, not 7-9.

I stand corrected.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

COULD BE skinsfan69. As you said, the jury is still out but I do think Zorn could become a great coach. I have no more respect for anyone than Joe Gibbs, but Gibbs didn't start out too great either. Gibbs wasn't judged a great coach in his first year either, but he sure turned out to be one. I never said he would be Joe Gibbs, I said he could be the best SINCE Gibbs.

i hear you. but zorn needs to improve in a lot of areas and one is stop being so blunt and calling guys out in the media. i don't know...i just don't see the guy as a leader of men and that's one trait a hc must have. i don't think he commands respect like some other coaches do. we'll see.