Smoot tried to decapitate DJ hackett

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by dmek25

your drinking the kool aid again. the way Smoot played last season, i would be shocked if he made the team. dude couldn't cover me or you

What am I missing on Smoot? I saw every game last year and I don't remember him being a glaring weakness.

Shawn Springs used to give up touchdowns against top receivers. Rogers used to give up touchdowns pretty regularly.

Our system tends to put corners in make or break spots but I never considered Smoot to be near the liability that Torrence always was.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

What am I missing on Smoot? I saw every game last year and I don't remember him being a glaring weakness.

Shawn Springs used to give up touchdowns against top receivers. Rogers used to give up touchdowns pretty regularly.

Our system tends to put corners in make or break spots but I never considered Smoot to be near the liability that Torrence always was.

An average pass at Fred Smoot (not a completion, an attempt) was worth 8.6 yards and one slip. That ranks him 70 best in the league, and that's the most flattering statistic I have on him.

He broke up seven passes last year, which was only 17 fewer than Rogers and 10 fewer than Hall, in about 3/4s the oppertunities. He picked off one pass, which means he's not even offering turnovers to help with his inability to cover.

Basically, I think if you watched all 16 games, at some point, you would have thought to yourself "god, this guy does not belong in the NFL anymore." Smoot has now had one good year in the last 4, so I think if he's a surprise cut in camp in order to try to fit a Doug Dutch, or Byron Westbrook, or depending on how things go in New Orleans, maybe even Leigh Torrence, Smoot's career is probably over.

He's a guy who had his best years with the Redskins, and I'm thankful for that, but those years were few and far between.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

An average pass at Fred Smoot (not a completion, an attempt) was worth 8.6 yards and one slip. That ranks him 70 best in the league, and that's the most flattering statistic I have on him.

He broke up seven passes last year, which was only 17 fewer than Rogers and 10 fewer than Hall, in about 3/4s the oppertunities. He picked off one pass, which means he's not even offering turnovers to help with his inability to cover.

Basically, I think if you watched all 16 games, at some point, you would have thought to yourself "god, this guy does not belong in the NFL anymore." Smoot has now had one good year in the last 4, so I think if he's a surprise cut in camp in order to try to fit a Doug Dutch, or Byron Westbrook, or depending on how things go in New Orleans, maybe even Leigh Torrence, Smoot's career is probably over.

He's a guy who had his best years with the Redskins, and I'm thankful for that, but those years were few and far between.

I have felt that way about Torrence since day one but not about Smoot. I will pay more attention.

I am a little leary about stats like that because they don't calculate the talent of the receiver or down and distance. If they tell Smoot to take a 10 yard cushion and he gives up a bunch of catches for 7-9 yards that isn't his fault. I know he was burned on some long balls last year.

I would be amazed if Doug Dutch or Bryon Westbrook get a spot over him and they better not bring Torrence back. He is a joke.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

An average pass at Fred Smoot (not a completion, an attempt) was worth 8.6 yards and one slip. That ranks him 70 best in the league, and that's the most flattering statistic I have on him.

He broke up seven passes last year, which was only 17 fewer than Rogers and 10 fewer than Hall, in about 3/4s the oppertunities. He picked off one pass, which means he's not even offering turnovers to help with his inability to cover.

Basically, I think if you watched all 16 games, at some point, you would have thought to yourself "god, this guy does not belong in the NFL anymore." Smoot has now had one good year in the last 4, so I think if he's a surprise cut in camp in order to try to fit a Doug Dutch, or Byron Westbrook, or depending on how things go in New Orleans, maybe even Leigh Torrence, Smoot's career is probably over.

He's a guy who had his best years with the Redskins, and I'm thankful for that, but those years were few and far between.

Way more mouth than on field performance, but I think that's always been the case.