The redskins performance tonight will be considered a failure if....

[CRedskinsRule]

First and foremost no injuries. I still only want CP to play one or two series, same with Samuels. It would be a complete failure if CP, Samuels, or Haynesworth has a season ending injury.

It would be nice to see our special teams play effectively in all facets.

It would be nice to see our D stop 3 and medium to longs and get off the field

Our offense is what it is, and we will not see what it can be until the first or maybe second game of the season. And no matter what it does tonight, it will be too little for a lot of people on this board.

With all that, I don't want to see the same type of game we saw against Carolina in last year's "big game".

[irish]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

First and foremost no injuries. I still only want CP to play one or two series, same with Samuels. It would be a complete failure if CP, Samuels, or Haynesworth has a season ending injury.

It would be nice to see our special teams play effectively in all facets.

It would be nice to see our D stop 3 and medium to longs and get off the field

Our offense is what it is, and we will not see what it can be until the first or maybe second game of the season. And no matter what it does tonight, it will be too little for a lot of people on this board.

With all that, I don't want to see the same type of game we saw against Carolina in last year's "big game".

I agree, the O is what it is. With all the same players in all the same roles, I just dont see the O being any different this year than last.

[dblanch66]

It will be a failure if there are any injuries. Agreed with some of you before me. Winning is irrelevant. I believe all of Joe Gibbs' super bowl teams lost a majority of their preseason games.

[GMScud]

I can't believe how many people here will be satisfied with 10 points out of the starting offense. I guess we've become conditioned to expect such mediocrity out of our offense. I thought I heard most of the starters are going play three quarters, and it's a home game. 10 points in 3 quarters isn't going to win you too many ball games.

If we don't see at least a couple of of TDs, (I'd like to see 3 scoring drives at a minimum) I'm going to be really concerned that our offense is nothing more than the stumbling wreck it was during the second half of 2008.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I can't believe how many people here will be satisfied with 10 points out of the starting offense. I guess we've become conditioned to expect such mediocrity out of our offense. I thought I heard most of the starters are going play three quarters, and it's a home game. 10 points in 3 quarters isn't going to win you too many ball games.

If we don't see at least a couple of of TDs, (I'd like to see 3 scoring drives at a minimum) I'm going to be really concerned that our offense is nothing more than the stumbling wreck it was during the second half of 2008.

Not sure about anyone else but I said 10 points by the half.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not sure about anyone else but I said 10 points by the half.

I meant 10-14 points by the half, too, which would be 20-28 for a whole game. I thought the starters would play only about a half.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I meant 10-14 points by the half, too, which would be 20-28 for a whole game. I thought the starters would play only about a half.

McNabb played into the 3rd quarter in yesterday's game.

We could do that too if Zorn caves to the fan pressure of wanting Campbell to do something no matter how long it takes.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I meant 10-14 points by the half, too, which would be 20-28 for a whole game. I thought the starters would play only about a half.

Even with that, so much of the second half strategy is based on halftime adjustments that we can't extrapolate a half of points over a game.

Understanding, fully, that your point was that 10-14 points in a half is completely sufficient, my counterpoint is that we won't have any idea how sufficient that is until we play a whole game, start to finish.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I can't believe how many people here will be satisfied with 10 points out of the starting offense. I guess we've become conditioned to expect such mediocrity out of our offense. I thought I heard most of the starters are going play three quarters, and it's a home game. 10 points in 3 quarters isn't going to win you too many ball games.

If we don't see at least a couple of of TDs, (I'd like to see 3 scoring drives at a minimum) I'm going to be really concerned that our offense is nothing more than the stumbling wreck it was during the second half of 2008.

So you want 9 points then...gotcha

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Angry

So you want 9 points then...gotcha

actually, I think 9 points would be the best of both worlds. We'd get to see the O in scoring position, and we'd get to see the kicking game.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I can't believe how many people here will be satisfied with 10 points out of the starting offense. I guess we've become conditioned to expect such mediocrity out of our offense. I thought I heard most of the starters are going play three quarters, and it's a home game. 10 points in 3 quarters isn't going to win you too many ball games.

If we don't see at least a couple of of TDs, (I'd like to see 3 scoring drives at a minimum) I'm going to be really concerned that our offense is nothing more than the stumbling wreck it was during the second half of 2008.

I can't believe how many people attach such importance to preseason games.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

I can't believe how many people attach such importance to preseason games.

Seriously.

Remember last year the Skins got smoked in the 3rd preseason game by the Panthers, and that didn't seem to hurt them in the 6-2 start, and what did it have to do with the 2-6 finish for that matter? Nothing.

How they look tonight will not make or break the season. If it makes you feel better if they trounce the Patriots, that's great. But it's not going to mean squat once week 1 rolls around and everyone's record resets to 0-0 and the real games begin.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seriously.

Remember last year the Skins got smoked in the 3rd preseason game by the Panthers, and that didn't seem to hurt them in the 6-2 start, and what did it have to do with the 2-6 finish for that matter? Nothing.

How they look tonight will not make or break the season. If it makes you feel better if they trounce the Patriots, that's great. But it's not going to mean squat once week 1 rolls around and everyone's record resets to 0-0 and the real games begin.

I could care less about winning the game. But let's be real- lack of offense buried our season last year. It needs to better this season and thus far we've seen no indications that it will be. This is the most important preseason test, and it will be disappointing if we don't move the ball and score a few times. I wonder how dismissive you guys would be about the preseason if we were lighting up the scoreboard.....

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I could care less about winning the game. But let's be real- lack of offense buried our season last year. It needs to better this season and thus far we've seen no indications that it will be. This is the most important preseason test, and it will be disappointing if we don't move the ball and score a few times. I wonder how dismissive you guys would be about the preseason if we were lighting up the scoreboard.....

That's a great point.


Zorn has a corny phrase for it and I'm a firm believer of the practice...stay medium.

Or as I like to say it...Don't let the highs get too high or the lows get too low. Life is all about having a homeostatic balance.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I could care less about winning the game. But let's be real- lack of offense buried our season last year. It needs to better this season and thus far we've seen no indications that it will be. This is the most important preseason test, and it will be disappointing if we don't move the ball and score a few times. I wonder how dismissive you guys would be about the preseason if we were lighting up the scoreboard.....

Sure disappointing for now... but how will it impact the season come September?

I think after the legendary Spurrier preseason (Osaka anyone?), quite a few people would be pretty dismissive if we were blowing teams out in August.