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Old 09-01-2009, 02:11 PM   #1
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Hasty? It's not like he's a rookie. No, he's not going to grab 70 balls in a year. But if he's not grabbing a ton of receptions and he's not a great a returner and we don't run that many trick plays, why are we paying him all that money. Seriously, to play the slot?
If he becomes a to-go guy on 3rd down and scores 6+ TDs because the defense is concentrating on the tall WRs, Moss and trying to remember Cooley in the red zone, wouldn't you agree that he's valuable enough to be paid?

IF he excels in the role, he's definitely worth the price this year...the other years, we'll just have to eat the cost.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:28 PM   #2
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If he becomes a to-go guy on 3rd down and scores 6+ TDs because the defense is concentrating on the tall WRs, Moss and trying to remember Cooley in the red zone, wouldn't you agree that he's valuable enough to be paid?

IF he excels in the role, he's definitely worth the price this year...the other years, we'll just have to eat the cost.
Frankly, if Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly cracks the lineup...and if Marko Mitchell continues to develop, I don't see where/how Randle El fits into that picture. We just don't throw the ball that often. Cooley had, what, 83 catches last year. Portis will get his share of carries, Betts will get more action on 3rd down and you can count on Moss getting his share of balls thrown his way.

Throw Freddie Davis in the mix and I just don't see how Randle El elbows his way into that lineup for more than 60 touches. Could happen, but you're talking about a combination of things happening.
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Frankly, if Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly cracks the lineup...and if Marko Mitchell continues to develop, I don't see where/how Randle El fits into that picture. We just don't throw the ball that often. Cooley had, what, 83 catches last year. Portis will get his share of carries, Betts will get more action on 3rd down and you can count on Moss getting his share of balls thrown his way.

Throw Freddie Davis in the mix and I just don't see how Randle El elbows his way into that lineup for more than 60 touches. Could happen, but you're talking about a combination of things happening.
This offense hasn't got the job done the last few years so eventually people are going to be replaced. That's just how the NFL works. If Kelly can stay healthy he's going to be on the field. Marko M. looks like he's going to be a factor too. IMO ARE will not be here next year and S. Moss is not far behind him.
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This offense hasn't got the job done the last few years so eventually people are going to be replaced. That's just how the NFL works. If Kelly can stay healthy he's going to be on the field. Marko M. looks like he's going to be a factor too. IMO ARE will not be here next year and S. Moss is not far behind him.
Agreed. I think next year Moss is this year's ARE, and next year's ARE is this year's Thrash.

As I said in another post on another thread, it's not ARE's fault he was given the contract he was given. And he wasn't brought here to be the #2. He was brought here to play the slot and Lloyd was supposed the #2, if not the #1.
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Agreed. I think next year Moss is this year's ARE, and next year's ARE is this year's Thrash.

As I said in another post on another thread, it's not ARE's fault he was given the contract he was given. And he wasn't brought here to be the #2. He was brought here to play the slot and Lloyd was supposed the #2, if not the #1.
I think that it will be a couple of years before they can unseat Moss. I agree that eventually he will be nasty in the slot just like Wes Welker.
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Agreed. I think next year Moss is this year's ARE, and next year's ARE is this year's Thrash.

As I said in another post on another thread, it's not ARE's fault he was given the contract he was given. And he wasn't brought here to be the #2. He was brought here to play the slot and Lloyd was supposed the #2, if not the #1.
This is where i was going to go with this argument until you brought it up. ARE should have been playing the slot from day one with the redskins, but with no number 2 receiver he was forced into action.
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Frankly, if Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly cracks the lineup...and if Marko Mitchell continues to develop, I don't see where/how Randle El fits into that picture. We just don't throw the ball that often. Cooley had, what, 83 catches last year. Portis will get his share of carries, Betts will get more action on 3rd down and you can count on Moss getting his share of balls thrown his way.

Throw Freddie Davis in the mix and I just don't see how Randle El elbows his way into that lineup for more than 60 touches. Could happen, but you're talking about a combination of things happening.
Exactly!! If it came to a choice between ARE and Marko Mitchell who would you take? I would take Mitchell based on his pre-season performance and potential shown so far and his age.
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Exactly!! If it came to a choice between ARE and Marko Mitchell who would you take? I would take Mitchell based on his pre-season performance and potential shown so far and his age.
But the argument many here are making is that ARE will move back to his natural position,which is the slot, and be very productive there. Marko is a classic wideout, not slot wide out. So in my mind, he's not a natural fit for that position.

That being said, I'm not sure ARE will produce that much more even at slot.

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If he becomes a to-go guy on 3rd down and scores 6+ TDs because the defense is concentrating on the tall WRs, Moss and trying to remember Cooley in the red zone, wouldn't you agree that he's valuable enough to be paid?

IF he excels in the role, he's definitely worth the price this year...the other years, we'll just have to eat the cost.
Don't they have someone else at Redskins Park that can get take out?
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