Skins sell ticket straight to scalpers

[Lotus]

The article is not about the Redskins organization engaging in an illegal practice. It is about workers in the ticket office who make some extra cash for themselves by selling tickets to brokers rather than to the people on the ticket waiting list. The Redskins organization as a whole wants the tickets to go to those on the waiting list but apparently some unscrupulous folks in the ticket office have subverted the ideal scenario. So when we read that these individuals have been "disciplined," it is fair to guess that this means "fired."

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The article is not about the Redskins organization engaging in an illegal practice. It is about workers in the ticket office who make some extra cash for themselves by selling tickets to brokers rather than to the people on the ticket waiting list. The Redskins organization as a whole wants the tickets to go to those on the waiting list but apparently some unscrupulous folks in the ticket office have subverted the ideal scenario. So when we read that these individuals have been "disciplined," it is fair to guess that this means "fired."

Unfortunately this clarification doesn't sell in the media, instead you will see many outlets (and fans) referring this as "the Redskins are doing this..."

[souperbad]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The article is not about the Redskins organization engaging in an illegal practice. It is about workers in the ticket office who make some extra cash for themselves by selling tickets to brokers rather than to the people on the ticket waiting list. The Redskins organization as a whole wants the tickets to go to those on the waiting list but apparently some unscrupulous folks in the ticket office have subverted the ideal scenario. So when we read that these individuals have been "disciplined," it is fair to guess that this means "fired."

Correct, the article is not about the Redskins engaging in an illegal practice. Nothing they are doing is illegal...its their tickets and they can do whatever they want. But the article is not blaming this on a couple of rogue ticket sellers...the intent of the article is to blame the Redskins Organization as a whole. The article points out that these sales to brokers where handled by the Vice President of Premium ticket sales.

Really, the article is just saying the famed Redskins waiting list is pointless and meaningless.

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by souperbad

Correct, the article is not about the Redskins engaging in an illegal practice. Nothing they are doing is illegal...its their tickets and they can do whatever they want. But the article is not blaming this on a couple of rogue ticket sellers...the intent of the article is to blame the Redskins Organization as a whole. The article points out that these sales to brokers where handled by the Vice President of Premium ticket sales.

Really, the article is just saying the famed Redskins waiting list is pointless and meaningless.

I disagree- not with your point about the legality- surely the redskins are acting within their rights. However, I do believe its disingenuous to sell to brokers rather than directly to fans (who have reportedly been waiting for years for tickets). I see no reason why they can't set up a site that affords waiting list members the ability to buy individual game tickets according to their rank. The sheer number of opposing team fans present at FedEx each and every week speaks volumes about the pervasiveness of the system (i know regular owns sell their tickets too). Moreover, for all the Hoopla the redskins try to sell us about the "12th Man" our stadium isn't that loud, and we aren't THAT supportive (subjective I know). There is certainly something unsettling about the skins bragging and encouraging the crowd to get loud (best fans in the NFL!), yet at the same time not doing all they can to ensure an overwhelming Pro-Redskins environment. I'm not against the skins making money (i'm a capitalist) but for years i've lamented the loss of RFK's je ne sais quoi, and now i know why.

[souperbad]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

I disagree- not with your point about the legality- surely the redskins are acting within their rights. However, I do believe its disingenuous to sell to brokers rather than directly to fans

Agreed. It is quite disingenuous....not just to the people on the wait list but the season ticket holders who have tenure and paying with the hopes of moving up to better seats.

This is my second year in the last row of the upper level. Theoretically I should have moved up. The ticket office called me and said I could move up if I bought 2 more seats. I asked why didn't I just move up automatically. The rep said the seats where a block of 4 and had to be take by a block of 4. I had a friend with 4 seats and he did not move up this year.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The article is not about the Redskins organization engaging in an illegal practice. It is about workers in the ticket office who make some extra cash for themselves by selling tickets to brokers rather than to the people on the ticket waiting list. The Redskins organization as a whole wants the tickets to go to those on the waiting list but apparently some unscrupulous folks in the ticket office have subverted the ideal scenario. So when we read that these individuals have been "disciplined," it is fair to guess that this means "fired."

Don't believe any of the spin coming from the organization. This sounds like Countrywide executives saying that they had no idea why subprime borrowers were given loans that they could never pay.

Everyone from the top down not only knew what was going on, but profited from it.