Skins sell ticket straight to scalpers

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Are there any $29 admission fees at FedEx?

Because in the new stadium at Dallas you can get a "party pass" for 29 bucks. See the game, drink some brew for just under 30 dollars. Not too shabby.

the $29 ticket is brilliant on one hand, but we'll see how people act in standing room only. It may be an industry trend setter. Either way it was smart for JJ to come up w/that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing new cowboys stadium. In fact, I think its design & many of the unique features (not the jumbotron) will be copied throughout the league. It's just a matter of scale; once you have a stadium that big it changes the game experience & it also makes it more imperative that tickets are all sold.

JJ's business plan likely projects sell outs or close over the next x no. of years. If that doesn't happen, he'll have to find other sources of $ in ticket sales. He just financed 1.2 billion, they're going to have to make A LOT of financial decisions in the near future re: ticket prices & other services that will likely make the avg. fan unhappy. I think it's simply a fact of life for any team building a new stadium.

[FRPLG]

I'm having a hard time caring about any of this.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I'm having a hard time caring about any of this.

lol right there with you

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

lol right there with you

Makes three of us

[redsk1]

Damn..someone made the Wash Post angry. Real angry. I see both sides of the issue. A contract is a promise to pay. However, it could probably be handled a little better on the Skins side too. Let's face it, they should be trying to build up a little more goodwill than they have over the last 10 years. If there is $150,000 on the waiting list for "general admission" then they should just turn around and sell the cancel seasons tix. If it's corporated, then charge the customer cancelling until it gets resold. Goodwill and a good public image goes a long way. I'm sure the skins aren't the only ones doing it though.

[stu_nna]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Makes three of us

coming in 4th

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Damn..someone made the Wash Post angry. Real angry. I see both sides of the issue. A contract is a promise to pay. However, it could probably be handled a little better on the Skins side too. Let's face it, they should be trying to build up a little more goodwill than they have over the last 10 years. If there is $150,000 on the waiting list for "general admission" then they should just turn around and sell the cancel seasons tix. If it's corporated, then charge the customer cancelling until it gets resold. Goodwill and a good public image goes a long way. I'm sure the skins aren't the only ones doing it though.

All good points. It's also kind of buried though that suing is a last resort for the team.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

All good points. It's also kind of buried though that suing is a last resort for the team.

Yea, i'm ready for some football now. PS game tonight and then it's almost game week.

[souperbad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

All good points. It's also kind of buried though that suing is a last resort for the team.

I would not say that its "buried" It's pretty obvious. Suing is always a last resort.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I'm having a hard time caring about any of this.

I can see that view. Most people don't care about what other people go through unless it affects them personally.

Since you don't care about the organization raping some people in it's fan base, do you care that the people in the ticket office contributed to creating a home field disadvantage against the Steelers game last year? Because every fan should be pissed and embarassed that our offense had to use a silent snap count in our own stadium.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I can see that view. Most people don't care about what other people go through unless it affects them personally.

Since you don't care about the organization raping some people in it's fan base, do you care that the people in the ticket office contributed to creating a home field disadvantage against the Steelers game last year? Because every fan should be pissed and embarassed that our offense had to use a silent snap count in our own stadium.

That's pretty harsh really.


I suppose I care, but this just seems so dang out of whack. Heck didn't you see that DS is the 8th best owner according to Yahoo sports. Geez that proves everything. [/sarcasm]

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I can see that view. Most people don't care about what other people go through unless it affects them personally.

Since you don't care about the organization raping some people in it's fan base, do you care that the people in the ticket office contributed to creating a home field disadvantage against the Steelers game last year? Because every fan should be pissed and embarassed that our offense had to use a silent snap count in our own stadium.

Actually I mostly don't care because I don't see what the big deal is. It's a business. I'm surprised people are surprised that profit maximizing goes on. I am surprised people are surprised the Skins sue people to pay their contractual obligations. I am surprised people think that Dan Snyder micromanages to a point where he'd have any idea how tickets get sold in the ticket office with any pertinent amount of detail. Mostly I am NOT surprised at the "outrage" since there are certain segments for people who are never going to care for the FO under Dan Snyder no matter what. With the WaPo leading that charge.

And no the issue with the Steelers game wasn't largely the team's fault. The issue is that lots of people sold their tickets. The tickets are expensive and games require commitment. Some people don't have that time and money. The size of the stadium increases the likelihood that there are a good number of "fans" who sell their tickets and there always will be, whether the team is winning games or not.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I can see that view. Most people don't care about what other people go through unless it affects them personally.

Oh, and as for this snarky shot I would caution you against making assumptions about how much I care about other people. I care plenty. I also think the deadbeats ought to pay their contractual obligations. Financial circumstances not-withstanding they still owe the money. If you can show me how the team is "raping" anyone maybe I'll care.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

JJ's business plan likely projects sell outs or close over the next x no. of years. If that doesn't happen, he'll have to find other sources of $ in ticket sales. He just financed 1.2 billion, they're going to have to make A LOT of financial decisions in the near future re: ticket prices & other services that will likely make the avg. fan unhappy. I think it's simply a fact of life for any team building a new stadium.

Income like College Games, World Soccer, concerts, All Star Games, and most assuredly a Super Bowl?

All of which are already on slate and scheduled.

[souperbad]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

And no the issue with the Steelers game wasn't largely the team's fault. The issue is that lots of people sold their tickets..

I care about this issue but I agree that the Steelers game has NOTHING to do with this issue. People need to realize that the Steelers game was a fact of economic life...a perfect storm if you will...and it will happen again.

Fact #1) Nobody lives western PA anymore. There are no jobs in Pittsburgh. All of the Steelers fans have moved here. In every job I have ever had...there has always been 1 or 2 transplants from PA working with me. I am sure you all have notices this too. This fact is called, "High Demand."

Fact #2) The Steelers coming to DC for a regular season game is a very rare occurence. Under the current NFL schedule rotation, the Steelers will come to Fed Ex once every 8 years. But last year was the first time, I can't rememeber the Steelers comeing to DC for a regular season game in my lifetime. This makes the event a rare occurence. This fact is called "Low Supply"

Fact #3) Season Ticker Holders don't go to every game. They pay a lot of money for their seats and they sell some games each year to make up their losses. They tend to sell the games that differ from their Sunday Game Day Football Routine. They also sell games that bring a lot of money ...such as a high demand low supply Steelers Game. Season ticket holders take a beating on the pre-season games and other lame games like the St. Louis, Kansas City and such.

It will happen again when the Steelers come back to town.