'Bring the Pain' Stepping away from the panic button, slowly

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Great post Paintrain! The playcalling was just horrible and frustrating to watch. I thought the tackling by the secondary was freaking awful. The offense is just bad, we need something.

Receivers.

Moss, 2 catches 6 yards
Kelly, 1 catch 6 yards
Thomas, EL ZIPPO

But, it all begins, and ends, just look at the Giants, and we say it year in and year out, up front on the offensive line.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Receivers.

Moss, 2 catches 6 yards
Kelly, 1 catch 6 yards
Thomas, EL ZIPPO

But, it all begins, and ends, just look at the Giants, and we say it year in and year out, up front on the offensive line.

You forgot one ARE the MOST productive one.....just under 100 yards.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Receivers.

Moss, 2 catches 6 yards
Kelly, 1 catch 6 yards
Thomas, EL ZIPPO

But, it all begins, and ends, just look at the Giants, and we say it year in and year out, up front on the offensive line.

It all starts on the sideline. The Giants have one of the best OL in the game, but there are plenty of teams with worse OL (even worse than ours) that are effective in passing the ball based on their play calling.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Receivers.

Moss, 2 catches 6 yards
Kelly, 1 catch 6 yards
Thomas, EL ZIPPO

But, it all begins, and ends, just look at the Giants, and we say it year in and year out, up front on the offensive line.

Campbell wasn't exactly running for his life this afternoon. Yeah, they got to him a couple of times, but the fumble by Umenyora was more a product of Jason holding the ball too long.

Seemed like the protection was basically there today.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Campbell wasn't exactly running for his life this afternoon. Yeah, they got to him a couple of times, but the fumble by Umenyora was more a product of Jason holding the ball too long.

Seemed like the protection was basically there today.

Pass protection: yes, essentially fine.

Run blocking: awful. And our backs did not take advantage when it wasn't awful, outside of one play.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Pass protection: yes, essentially fine.

Run blocking: awful. And our backs did not take advantage when it wasn't awful, outside of one play.

Yes, pass protection was great actually. Run blocking, well not so much. Run blocking is going to be the key to our season too (stating the obvious).

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Campbell wasn't exactly running for his life this afternoon. Yeah, they got to him a couple of times, but the fumble by Umenyora was more a product of Jason holding the ball too long.

Seemed like the protection was basically there today.

Exactly. I think someone pointed out that there was only 2 sacks and none from Heyer's side. Touche', good job O-line. But, ......how many rush's were there? or close sacks? It seemed like all game I kept saying "get rid of the ball", "get rid of the ball."

In a nutshell I expected the Skins to be better then the Giants. I bought in to the fact the Giants have no WR's, they have key injuries, our O-line was boosted, and we have better weapons this yr. Totally bought it. Sold. I still don't think the Giants are better, I think the Skins allowed them to physically man handle them to get them off their game. Moss was upset, Landry was upset, just to name a couple. I expected to see a lot of Kelly, a little of Thomas, some of Davis, and perhaps a lot of Mitchell in the red zone. I mean Mitchell is practically taller then everyone which makes for a good target.

If Zorn was having trouble getting the runs in, no different then when we play the Steeler's, Eagles, Ravens, Titans...etc. They have big defensive lines. It's a clue to send the RB around the D-line and get the ball to him so he can get up field. The whole game the run only worked twice. Send Portis out. Get him into open space.

The play calling was atrocious. Run, Run, Pass, Punt. Go figure. Zorn, here's a quick tid bit.....if the run is not working PASS. Get something going. and yes I noticed JC looks to feel more comfortable in the shot gun also. I guess cause he does not have to count steps while back peddling, look at the rush, check the defense, and get the pass off. To much for him to think about.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Exactly. I think someone pointed out that there was only 2 sacks and none from Heyer's side. Touche', good job O-line. But, ......how many rush's were there? or close sacks? It seemed like all game I kept saying "get rid of the ball", "get rid of the ball."

In a nutshell I expected the Skins to be better then the Giants. I bought in to the fact the Giants have no WR's, they have key injuries, our O-line was boosted, and we have better weapons this yr. Totally bought it. Sold. I still don't think the Giants are better, I think the Skins allowed them to physically man handle them to get them off their game. Moss was upset, Landry was upset, just to name a couple. I expected to see a lot of Kelly, a little of Thomas, some of Davis, and perhaps a lot of Mitchell in the red zone. I mean Mitchell is practically taller then everyone which makes for a good target.

If Zorn was having trouble getting the runs in, no different then when we play the Steeler's, Eagles, Ravens, Titans...etc. They have big defensive lines. It's a clue to send the RB around the D-line and get the ball to him so he can get up field. The whole game the run only worked twice. Send Portis out. Get him into open space.

The play calling was atrocious. Run, Run, Pass, Punt. Go figure. Zorn, here's a quick tid bit.....if the run is not working PASS. Get something going. and yes I noticed JC looks to feel more comfortable in the shot gun also. I guess cause he does not have to count steps while back peddling, look at the rush, check the defense, and get the pass off. To much for him to think about.

They can also go 4 or 5 wide and run from that formation. Or run from shot-gun. Or go no-huddle in the first quarter. Or pass on first down. They're just so friggin predictable. I believe the ball never crossed the plane of the end zone through the air until the pass to Cooley. That's ridiculous. I want to see balls fall incomplete (better yet complete) in the end zone BEFORE the 4th quarter.