Defense = Disappointment

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, they bent. And they bent. Then they broke. And they bent again. And again. And then, well, the game ended.

The defense played a good third quarter when they held the Giants completely scoreless, but three bad quarters a good unit does not make.

The defense was obviously the big problem. I mean, c'mon, lets not kid ourselves.

Really? Cause here I was thinking the offense fumbled the ball which was returned for a TD, threw an INT, and allowed 3 sacks. They couldn't even move the ball to give the defense a breather.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

Really? Cause here I was thinking the offense fumbled the ball which was returned for a TD, threw an INT, and allowed 3 sacks. They couldn't even move the ball to give the defense a breather.

Yeah. We should just play the games over 4 days from now on. Then, when the Giants have like 14, 15 play drives (NFL average = 6), the defense can rest without actually having to get themselves off the field.

Good idea.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah. We should just play the games over 4 days from now on. Then, when the Giants have like 14, 15 play drives (NFL average = 6), the defense can rest without actually having to get themselves off the field.

Good idea.

Lets do the math:

Giants scored 23 pts, the defense gave up 16 pts of those points and the offense gave up 7 pts. The offense scored 17 points.

If no offensive turnover the score would be 17-16 Skins.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by saden1

Lets do the math:

Giants scored 23 pts, the defense gave up 16 pts of those points and the offense gave up 7 pts. The offense scored 17 points.

If no offensive turnover the score would be 17-16 Skins.

So who gave up the most points? The offense or the defense? Who scored the most points? Offense or defense?

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by saden1

Lets do the math:

Giants scored 23 pts, the defense gave up 16 pts of those points and the offense gave up 7 pts. The offense scored 17 points.

If no offensive turnover the score would be 17-16 Skins.

If England won the battle for independence then we'd all be speaking with British accents.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

If England won the battle for independence then we'd all be speaking with British accents.

'ello mate!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

'ello mate!

What part of England is that accent from? Sydney or Melbourne? LOL.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

What part of England is that accent from? Sydney or Melbourne? LOL.

What can I say? It's late and I've just been through some emotional trauma.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

Lets do the math:

Giants scored 23 pts, the defense gave up 16 pts of those points and the offense gave up 7 pts. The offense scored 17 points.

If no offensive turnover the score would be 17-16 Skins.

So your argument is, "the defense sucks, but we should overcome them every time"?

Or you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Well, if all we did on offense is run Portis three times and punt, we might not have to worry about those damn turnovers. Unless we fumble.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by saden1

Lets do the math:

Giants scored 23 pts, the defense gave up 16 pts of those points and the offense gave up 7 pts. The offense scored 17 points.

If no offensive turnover the score would be 17-16 Skins.

I agree what you saying, but the Manning committed the same two offensive turnovers and the Giants still won. I think what GTripp is trying to say is the defense might be plagued with the same issues it was last year, not being able to score off defensive turnovers. It is still too early to tell. That was the purpose of paying someone like AH 100 mil so the defensive will cause the QB to fumble/throw int and sometimes even score off those turnovers. I think he is blame the scheme more than placing the blame on players.

The real question is why in the last couple of years do the skins have to play perfect football to win games.

JC and some of the defensive players get some of the blame with poor decision making. To me 95% of the blame goes to Zorn and Blache. They both called a horrible game and didn't do much to put the players in a position to win. If they would have called better plays/scheme they could have easily beat the Giants. Zorn set the tone(really lost the game) of the game the minute he wanted A.R. to throw a pass to Moss instead of Campbell or running the ball. A.R gets sacked and they lose 10 yards after Portis gain 30 yds(I think). Imagine if they would have scored a td during that possession. It would have be 7-3 skins and I think game would have had a different momentum and outcome.