play calling???

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Also besides the nice catch on the improvisation by Campbell what has Betts done? I would put Mason in place of Betts and see what happens.

Uh oh!! Let the flood games open. Lol. Maybe we can replace Betts with Cartwright [end sarcasm]

People say Mason is the same back as Betts and Betts is the same as CP.

When people say that I throw up in my mouth a little bit.

In terms of yards/game, Portis is #2 among active players, behind LT. Of course, Peterson isn't on the list due to not enough games.

Among all players, he's currently #5, behind Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Terrell Davis, and LT. I imagine he'll drop off a bit as he gets older, but he's the real deal.

Check the list you will be amazed. He will be the all time leading rusher in Redskins history by the end of the year. He rushed for close to 1,500 yards last year and could have gotten more but he got hurt and Zorn stopped running him. I can understand he was saving him from wear and tear. But who did we have to back him up. Betts? Oh he got hurt. Cartwright. Not good we signed Shaun Alexander. Then people are crying over us keeping Mason.

People are like why do you worry about the third/fourth back? (see explanation above)

Betts is not good at the goal line or getting a first down on third down. He is our third down back because he catches well? So when he comes in the game you don't think teams know this?

I was saying on another post. If Moss wasn't going to step up maybe we should have used one of the other WRs (At least for a series until he got his head together). What ever brings good results. I named all WRs and they pull Mitchell out of the mix and say if Moss wasn't making a play why do you think the 5th WR will? I was just naming off the whole WR depth chart. You try different things when the same things don't work.

This team needs some swagger and attitude. We need to kick ass and take names later and stop being a punch of spoiled brats and prima donnas. If anyone can stick there chest out it is Portis because he grinds his body to the ground every year.

Zorn needs to utilize his players and make better play calls. Make the scheme work for the talent he has. I think we have as much talent as any team in this league. But we only strive when our backs are against the wall. I jsut want some efficiency, consistency and straight up swagger. That has to come from the players but also the head coach.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

In terms of yards/game, Portis is #2 among active players, behind LT. Of course, Peterson isn't on the list due to not enough games.

Among all players, he's currently #5, behind Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Terrell Davis, and LT. I imagine he'll drop off a bit as he gets older, but he's the real deal.

Check the list you will be amazed. He will be the all time leading rusher in Redskins history by the end of the year. He rushed for close to 1,500 yards last year and could have gotten more but he got hurt and Zorn stopped running him.

Clinton Portis played like an average running back(at best) against the Giants. IMO he played pretty bad. His suddenness is non-existent.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Clinton Portis played like an average running back(at best) against the Giants. IMO he played pretty bad. His suddenness is non-existent.

I'm probably going to get flamed for this -- but the decline of Clinton Portis is in full view of those who are willing to see it.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I'm probably going to get flamed for this -- but the decline of Clinton Portis is in full view of those who are willing to see it.

You can't work his ass like a government mule and expect him to last long.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I'm probably going to get flamed for this -- but the decline of Clinton Portis is in full view of those who are willing to see it.

Not a flame, but do you really think the holes were there? I know some thought the OL did a great job, but I just didn't see it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not a flame, but do you really think the holes were there? I know some thought the OL did a great job, but I just didn't see it.

When I do the line yards tonight and tomorrow, I have a feeling they'll back up what you're saying about the running holes. I'm not being biased, just a guess.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not a flame, but do you really think the holes were there? I know some thought the OL did a great job, but I just didn't see it.

No, the Giants did a fine job stuffing the run, but on the 34-yarder, it just seems as though Portis would have been able to take it further 3 or 4 years ago. His vision, and ability to juke defenders in the open field just isn't there anymore.

This is obvious to many, and as TTE said, season after season of 330+ carries does that to any running back. But I just wonder if fans realize how much of a decline there's been between Portis' first carry as a Redskin against the Bucs six years ago and the Portis of today.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I'm probably going to get flamed for this -- but the decline of Clinton Portis is in full view of those who are willing to see it.

I don't think CP is in decline. He just shouldn't be the focus of the offense anymore. The QB should be. CP is not a game breaker and it's just time for a transition of a running team to a passing team. But the coach is either too stupid to realize it or he's too stubborn. What really pissed me off was watching the Balt. game. Watching Cam Cameron and Harbaugh just hand over the offense to a 2nd year QB from freakin Delaware and let him sling it all over the field. I don't think Balt. has better wr's than we do. My patience w/ Zorn's playcalling is over with, he appears to be in over his head and it's time to be on the Shanahan watch.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think CP is in decline. He just shouldn't be the focus of the offense anymore. The QB should be. CP is not a game breaker and it's just time for a transition of a running team to a passing team. But the coach is either too stupid to realize it or he's too stubborn. What really pissed me off was watching the Balt. game. Watching Cam Cameron and Harbaugh just hand over the offense to a 2nd year QB from freakin Delaware and let him sling it all over the field. I don't think Balt. has better wr's than we do. My patience w/ Zorn's playcalling is over with, he appears to be in over his head and it's time to be on the Shanahan watch.

Well, I take issue with your first statement because it's bound to happen to every player. I guess the only point to argue is to what degree his decline is in.

At times, Zorn's in-game performance falls apart when things don't go according to plan. Even though the Giants were stuffing up the running lanes, it's as if he locks up, doesn't know how to respond, and the only thing he can think of is to keep feeding the ball to Portis because he figures something will open up sooner or later. As a playcaller, he's still relatively new at this.

If it's not meant to be for Zorn in Washington, Shanahan would be my first choice.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Well, I take issue with your first statement because it's bound to happen to every player. I guess the only point to argue is to what degree his decline is in.

At times, Zorn's in-game performance falls apart when things don't go according to plan. Even though the Giants were stuffing up the running lanes, it's as if he locks up, doesn't know how to respond, and the only thing he can think of is to keep feeding the ball to Portis because he figures something will open up sooner or later. As a playcaller, he's still relatively new at this.

If it's not meant to be for Zorn in Washington, Shanahan would be my first choice.

CP is still avery effective back and good enough to start. But he's simply not a game breaker like AP is. Or even Steven Jackson.

If an NFL HC can't make adjustments on the fly then it's time to go. Over the last half of last year and the 1st game of this year he simply looks in over his head. NY had injuries in the secondary and he didn't try and exploit that. Plus the blown timeouts. That is piss poor coaching. If I were Snyder I'd have Shanahan on speed dial. We wouldn't even have to change the offense either.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

You try different things when the same things don't work.

This team needs some swagger and attitude. We need to kick ass and take names later and stop being a punch of spoiled brats and prima donnas. If anyone can stick there chest out it is Portis because he grinds his body to the ground every year.

Zorn needs to utilize his players and make better play calls. Make the scheme work for the talent he has. I think we have as much talent as any team in this league. But we only strive when our backs are against the wall. I jsut want some efficiency, consistency and straight up swagger. That has to come from the players but also the head coach.

I only can hope Zorn will do better starting this sunday and from now on.. Zorn needs to take the handcuffs off Campbell, and let him do his things..

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I only can hope Zorn will do better starting this sunday and from now on.. Zorn needs to take the handcuffs off Campbell, and let him do his things..

Wow Jason Campbell went from wearing Shackles to wearing Handcuffs. We really need to get away from these such idiot statements when referring to any player whether Black or White. Im not saying anyone is racists but maybe ignorant would be the better choice. We are all fans and many different races lets be more understantding to one another. Thanks GridIron.

P.S. The Shackles statement was from (Roth).

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

Wow Jason Campbell went from wearing Shackles to wearing Handcuffs. We really need to get away from these such idiot statements when referring to any player whether Black or White. Im not saying anyone is racists but maybe ignorant would be the better choice. We are all fans and many different races lets be more understantding to one another. Thanks GridIron.

P.S. The Shackles statement was from (Roth).

We don't need to do a GD thing! We're beyond thinking in racial terms. It appears your not. In case you haven't noticed, 75% of the league is black. If you want to imply that we're ignorant or racist go up to Filth-a-delphia were that BS belongs. If anything I said hurts your racially sensitive feelings, good. Go join Nightlight.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

Wow Jason Campbell went from wearing Shackles to wearing Handcuffs. We really need to get away from these such idiot statements when referring to any player whether Black or White. Im not saying anyone is racists but maybe ignorant would be the better choice. We are all fans and many different races lets be more understantding to one another. Thanks GridIron.

P.S. The Shackles statement was from (Roth).

FUCK YOU! People are way too sensitive, its a figure of speech you dipshit! I am black you dumbass, get over it already!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by roth74va

FUCK YOU! People are way too sensitive, its a figure of speech you dipshit! I am black you dumbass, get over it already!

Now thats funny.