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Old 09-16-2009, 03:25 PM   #1
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Re: Is Zorn just a bad leader or the bigger issues of his coaching coming from the front office

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.....or could it be that we mods are to blame for allowing you to still start threads?...
Well, FINALLY!

Get the pitchforks, boys! We're blaming the Mods!

Just to make this whole 'Negative Nelly' thing easier and less likely to fill the forum with rants could one of the clever Mods figure out a way to link the Zorn-O-Meter to the color (Mood Ring style) of everyones avatar and then we'd know how you feel without you posting every five minutes.

Come on, Mods, one glowing icon in an avatar could save this site.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:22 AM   #2
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Just asking, is Zorn that bad of a coach and he truly has no idea which way to go with this team, or is it or could it be , that alot of his mental aspects (such AS VINNY AND SYDNER ARE TELLING HIM WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT? nOn OF US KNOWS for sure OURSELVES. But the one thing i have seen clearly is he puts no trust in his players. Again this is only my opinion but he has no confidence in the playes this team is doomed before the season is over.
You should learn how to close parentheses. (Just a pet peeve of mine)

To your point...you have no point and make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:46 AM   #3
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Re: Is Zorn just a bad leader or the bigger issues of his coaching coming from the front office

I feel your frustration after the loss and I believe we all were frustrated by it . It was one game but the offense and defense seemed the same but we stopped Jacobs from running wild this time. Zorn needs to stop going with his script if the game quickly changes and go by feel like plenty of good playcallers do. I do not blieve it but if someone would is telling Zorn what plays to run in the front office then he needs to be shot. His job is at stake rather with us or a future team. I just think ultimately it all comes down to talent. We just don't have the talent level of the other NFC East teams of other elite teams. We just have to continue through the draft and sign a few free agents here and there.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:03 AM   #4
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I think you can make a very solid case that Zorn should not be a head coach in the NFL, at least, not yet. Remember, Zorn was hired to be the offensive coordinator, not the head coach. He only became head coach because the Snyderrato's favored candidates [Steve Mariucci, Jim Fassel] evoked such dread in the local fan base and media that management shifted gears. Unable to find a big-name coach [like Bill Cowher] who would work for a fool of a GM, Snyderrato fell back on Zorn. He wasn't supposed to be the head coach of the Redskins and, as far as I know, no other team was pursuing him to be a head coach.

Now, it could turn out that Zorn becomes a very good NFL head coach. We don't know yet. But a person could be forgiven for thinking Zorn is in over his head.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:25 AM   #5
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I think you can make a very solid case that Zorn should not be a head coach in the NFL, at least, not yet. Remember, Zorn was hired to be the offensive coordinator, not the head coach. He only became head coach because the Snyderrato's favored candidates [Steve Mariucci, Jim Fassel] evoked such dread in the local fan base and media that management shifted gears. Unable to find a big-name coach [like Bill Cowher] who would work for a fool of a GM, Snyderrato fell back on Zorn. He wasn't supposed to be the head coach of the Redskins and, as far as I know, no other team was pursuing him to be a head coach.

Now, it could turn out that Zorn becomes a very good NFL head coach. We don't know yet. But a person could be forgiven for thinking Zorn is in over his head.
Can you make a "very solid case," or do we not know yet? You can't really have it both ways.

By the way, the hiring process logically does not reflect Zorn's ability to coach. Vince Lombardi, hired through a fractured process, would still be Vince Lombardi. Steve Spurrier, hired through a perfect process, is still Steve Spurrier.
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Old 09-16-2009, 03:15 PM   #6
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Can you make a "very solid case," or do we not know yet? You can't really have it both ways.

By the way, the hiring process logically does not reflect Zorn's ability to coach. Vince Lombardi, hired through a fractured process, would still be Vince Lombardi. Steve Spurrier, hired through a perfect process, is still Steve Spurrier.
Really. After hiring him as OC they were so impressed with him they decided he was what they were looking for in a HC. I don't care why or how he was hired. Let's see how much our team has progressed at the end of the season and have something to actually base an argument on.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:31 AM   #7
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I think you can make a very solid case that Zorn should not be a head coach in the NFL, at least, not yet. Remember, Zorn was hired to be the offensive coordinator, not the head coach. He only became head coach because the Snyderrato's favored candidates [Steve Mariucci, Jim Fassel] evoked such dread in the local fan base and media that management shifted gears. Unable to find a big-name coach [like Bill Cowher] who would work for a fool of a GM, Snyderrato fell back on Zorn. He wasn't supposed to be the head coach of the Redskins and, as far as I know, no other team was pursuing him to be a head coach.

Now, it could turn out that Zorn becomes a very good NFL head coach. We don't know yet. But a person could be forgiven for thinking Zorn is in over his head.
Wow. Glad you have the ability to read minds. I just assumed DS hired who he and VC thought was best - glad to know we fans can actually cause him to hire someone he didn't feel was qualified.

Sorry for the snarky comment, but damn, haven't we been down this road enough. Arrrrggghhhhh.

Going back to my cave. See all the rational folks on Sunday.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:57 AM   #9
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Re: Is Zorn just a bad leader or the bigger issues of his coaching coming from the front office

all these nonsense threads are giving me a headache
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all these nonsense threads are giving me a headache
Agreed, time to move on to other things. The nit-picking all week long after one lost game is truly insane, keeps the board cluttered with basically the same old stuff. Enough already.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:11 AM   #11
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Re: Is Zorn just a bad leader or the bigger issues of his coaching coming from the front office

OH, The humanity of it all!!
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No you're just a bad poster
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Old 09-16-2009, 09:43 AM   #13
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No you're just a bad poster
Are you talking about this:


or this one:



Cuz I kinda like Jodie Foster, but I could understand if you meant the first one. It is pretty bad.
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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;589994]Are you talking about this:


Man where do you find this stuff?
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Are you talking about this:


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Cuz I kinda like Jodie Foster, but I could understand if you meant the first one. It is pretty bad.
good one. way to save this sorry thread! lol.
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