Now What??

SFREDSKIN · 09-27-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You just want to cut and fire everyone don't you?

Vinny, Blache and Betts, that's all.

skinsfan69 · 09-27-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Vinny, Blache and Betts, that's all.

the defense got pushed around but i didn't see guys blowing assigments. is that the coordinators fault? their guys just played better. rogers just couldn't hold down det. wr's. he was in position, their guys were just better today. bryan johnson just played better than rogers.

SFREDSKIN · 09-27-2009, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

the defense got pushed around but i didn't see guys blowing assigments. is that the coordinators fault? their guys just played better. rogers just couldn't hold down det. wr's. he was in position, their guys were just better today. bryan johnson just played better than rogers.

Did you see how many times this season we fail to stop 3rd down conversions? Way too many times, where's the pressure?

skinsfan69 · 09-27-2009, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Did you see how many times this season we fail to stop 3rd down conversions? Way too many times, where's the pressure?

Who do we have that is a top pass rusher? No one. Blitzing wasn't the way to go cause our corners were having trouble anyway. Coaching on the defense wasn't the problem today. It was the players. And even though the defense struggled today they kept us in the game the 2nd half. It's the offense where I place the blame. Scoring 9 and 14 points against two of the worst teams in the NFL is unacceptable.

GTripp0012 · 09-27-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Who do we have that is a top pass rusher? No one. Blitzing wasn't the way to go cause our corners were having trouble anyway. Coaching on the defense wasn't the problem today. It was the players. And even though the defense struggled today they kept us in the game the 2nd half. It's the offense where I place the blame. Scoring 9 and 14 points against two of the worst teams in the NFL is unacceptable.

The offense has not been good the last two games, especially in the red zone. But it was the thinner of the two units to begin with, and it's the one that took the first major injury.

And the offense did have trouble moving the football today. Campbell did not play very well. There was no rhythm to his work. Portis was a non factor in this one.

No matter who is coaching the offense, it will have it's moments when Campbell plays well and it's going to struggle mightily when he doesn't. You just can't excuse a poorly coached defense as not having the players. You might be right, but since Blache has been our DL coach and later our coordinator, we're 0-4 against rookie QBs. How can we defend that?

dmvskinzfan08 · 09-27-2009, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The offense has not been good the last two games, especially in the red zone. But it was the thinner of the two units to begin with, and it's the one that took the first major injury.

And the offense did have trouble moving the football today. Campbell did not play very well. There was no rhythm to his work. Portis was a non factor in this one.

No matter who is coaching the offense, it will have it's moments when Campbell plays well and it's going to struggle mightily when he doesn't. You just can't excuse a poorly coached defense as not having the players. You might be right, but since Blache has been our DL coach and later our coordinator, we're 0-4 against rookie QBs. How can we defend that?

You can say Campbell didn't play well but he didn't play bad. HE didn't lose the game for us. Our O-line is garbage and our D is horrible. Blache sucks plain and simple.

GTripp0012 · 09-27-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

You can say Campbell didn't play well but he didn't play bad. HE didn't lose the game for us. Our O-line is garbage and our D is horrible. Blache sucks plain and simple.

All correct.

Redskin Warrior · 09-27-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

You can say Campbell didn't play well but he didn't play bad. HE didn't lose the game for us. Our O-line is garbage and our D is horrible. Blache sucks plain and simple.

my point i've been try to make is right now if you replaced any QB with Campbell they would have the same garbage o-line therefore the same results almost. We couldn't block detroit pass rush!!!

WaldSkins · 09-27-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The offense has not been good the last two games, especially in the red zone. But it was the thinner of the two units to begin with, and it's the one that took the first major injury.

And the offense did have trouble moving the football today. Campbell did not play very well. There was no rhythm to his work. Portis was a non factor in this one.

No matter who is coaching the offense, it will have it's moments when Campbell plays well and it's going to struggle mightily when he doesn't. You just can't excuse a poorly coached defense as not having the players. You might be right, but since Blache has been our DL coach and later our coordinator, we're 0-4 against rookie QBs. How can we defend that?

Josh Freeman isn't starting next week is he?

skinsfan69 · 09-27-2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The offense has not been good the last two games, especially in the red zone. But it was the thinner of the two units to begin with, and it's the one that took the first major injury.

And the offense did have trouble moving the football today. Campbell did not play very well. There was no rhythm to his work. Portis was a non factor in this one.

No matter who is coaching the offense, it will have it's moments when Campbell plays well and it's going to struggle mightily when he doesn't. You just can't excuse a poorly coached defense as not having the players. You might be right, but since Blache has been our DL coach and later our coordinator, we're 0-4 against rookie QBs. How can we defend that?

The offense hasn't been good since the 2nd half of last year and this whole year. It's about scoring points not yardage. We can't score points. Scoring 9 and 14 points is simply inexcusable and unacceptable against Det. and STL.

If you watched the game today closely, which I assume you did you would've saw guys LOSING their one on one battles on defense. And you would've saw some missed tackles. I'm not sure how you blame that on coaching.

53Fan · 09-27-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The offense hasn't been good since the 2nd half of last year and this whole year. It's about scoring points not yardage. We can't score points. Scoring 9 and 14 points is simply inexcusable and unacceptable against Det. and STL.

If you watched the game today closely, which I assume you did you would've saw guys LOSING their one on one battles on defense. And you would've saw some missed tackles. I'm not sure how you blame that on coaching.

The same way you blame dropped passes, fumbles, penalties and the offense being unable to run for 1 yard for a TD on Zorn.

SFREDSKIN · 09-27-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Who do we have that is a top pass rusher? No one. Blitzing wasn't the way to go cause our corners were having trouble anyway. Coaching on the defense wasn't the problem today. It was the players. And even though the defense struggled today they kept us in the game the 2nd half. It's the offense where I place the blame. Scoring 9 and 14 points against two of the worst teams in the NFL is unacceptable.

Let's see, Andre Carter, Orakpo, Jarmon, Haynesworth, Griffin, landry, Hall, Fletcher, McIntosh, all highly paid players except Jarmon. I would expect that our DC would figure out a way to use all this talent. Another DC would figure out a way to get pressure, I thought that's what everyone said it would happen after signing AH?

skinsfan69 · 09-27-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Let's see, Andre Carter, Orakpo, Jarmon, Haynesworth, Griffin, landry, Hall, Fletcher, McIntosh, all highly paid players except Jarmon. I would expect that our DC would figure out a way to use all this talent. Another DC would figure out a way to get pressure, I thought that's what everyone said it would happen after signing AH?

Sorry the guys you mentioned lost a lot of their one on one battles today. And that's what a lot of this comes down to. One on one battles and our guys simply got beat. You can blame the coaches all you want but they can only do so much.

SFREDSKIN · 09-27-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry the guys you mentioned lost a lot of their one on one battles today. And that's what a lot of this comes down to. One on one battles and our guys simply got beat. You can blame the coaches all you want but they can only do so much.

And how much are these guys getting paid? A good coach would know what to do with that talent, obviously Blache is not it. Were people in this forum not saying after AH signed and D hall that we would get all this pressure and interceptions? Maybe we should get rid of all this under performers.

roth74va · 09-27-2009, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Who do we have that is a top pass rusher? No one. Blitzing wasn't the way to go cause our corners were having trouble anyway. Coaching on the defense wasn't the problem today. It was the players. And even though the defense struggled today they kept us in the game the 2nd half. It's the offense where I place the blame. Scoring 9 and 14 points against two of the worst teams in the NFL is unacceptable.

When you have a pass rush(blitz or not) it HELPS the corners(DB's). Our schemes for rushing the QB is so basic, it isnt fooling anyone. Blache is still stuck in the 80's, the game has passed him. Coaching is the problem, the DB's are still playing 10 yards off the WR's. And I see the offensive problems as 2 parts....1)our O-line is bad, Heyer shouldnt be a starter in this league, and 2)Zorns pathetic playcalling.

We need to blow this up, bring in Holmgren(or one of the others) give him TOTAL control of the team. Fire Zorn(or demote to QB coach), fire Cerrato...this needed to happen a long time ago. Snyder needs to pay the bills and keep his nose out of the rest. Fire Blache, and promote Jerry Gray. If his schemes arent any better, start looking for a young defensive coordinator at the end of the season.

Now What??

Locker Room Main Forum