Zorn nowhere near considering a QB change

Chevy13 · 10-06-2009, 05:23 PM

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Overall his numbers are solid.

Watching the MNF game last night, I was amazed at the time the Minnesota line gave Favre. Campbell has no option but to either throw it quick or scramble. I remember the days of the Hogs... do you think it was the QBs (3 different SB QBs) or the the work of the line?? Give him a line and time and we excell.

Watching the game in person on Sunday was rough during the first half and fantastic during the second half (especially the 3rd quarter). If you look at the QB rating alone 1st half vs. 2nd half, that really tells the story. Watching it again on tape that night really shows the overall play of the QB. I will admit he was nowhere near accurate in the 1st half, but look at the pressure TB put on him.

Four turnovers is unheard of from JC. I was amazed to read that 3 INTs was the most he had ever thrown since starting to play football. And keep in mind that one of those INTs was a deflection after nailing the referee!!

And I am in complete agreement that he is the best QB on the roster. I hope he begins to shine, because I do not like the looks of Tebo or McCoy as top prospect NFL QBs. I can see Dannyboy overspending and wasting draft picks to go after the next "big name" rookie QB.

Also by watching the MNF game I noticed Rodgers didn't have too much time (sacked 8 times) and he still throw for 384 yards and 2TD's with 1 pick not bad for a QB being pressured and hit so much, not bad for a QB who was on his 20th start. It is my opinion that JC will never be a dynamic QB like what Rodgers could potentially be. I think it'd be stupid to sit him now because wether he'll be a big time QB or not he's still playing well and is one of the very few bright spots of the team. I just cant help but notice that young QB's like rodgers (with half as many starts) just look like they have something special that JC will probably never have. I hope I'm wrong and he starts stepping it up even more and starts throwing some TDs (or find a coach that can call some plays that can actually help us score)

Trample the Elderly · 10-06-2009, 05:47 PM

I hope Tod Collins doesn't start playing until the weekend after next.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-06-2009, 08:19 PM

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Also by watching the MNF game I noticed Rodgers didn't have too much time (sacked 8 times) and he still throw for 384 yards and 2TD's with 1 pick not bad for a QB being pressured and hit so much, not bad for a QB who was on his 20th start. It is my opinion that JC will never be a dynamic QB like what Rodgers could potentially be. I think it'd be stupid to sit him now because wether he'll be a big time QB or not he's still playing well and is one of the very few bright spots of the team. I just cant help but notice that young QB's like rodgers (with half as many starts) just look like they have something special that JC will probably never have. I hope I'm wrong and he starts stepping it up even more and starts throwing some TDs (or find a coach that can call some plays that can actually help us score)

I guess the difference is JC played bad and still won. Eventhough that doesn't matter much around here. I am sure things will be brought to the light with Sherm Lewis.

Rodgers came out the same year as Campbell. If Campbell learned from Favre I am sure he wold be a much better QB also. People dont understand how much you learn holding a clip board and watching the nuances of a Hall of Famer. Or just being able to sit back and learn a system for a few years until you are comfortable in a offense.

skins89moss · 10-06-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy13

Also by watching the MNF game I noticed Rodgers didn't have too much time (sacked 8 times) and he still throw for 384 yards and 2TD's with 1 pick not bad for a QB being pressured and hit so much, not bad for a QB who was on his 20th start. It is my opinion that JC will never be a dynamic QB like what Rodgers could potentially be. I think it'd be stupid to sit him now because wether he'll be a big time QB or not he's still playing well and is one of the very few bright spots of the team. I just cant help but notice that young QB's like rodgers (with half as many starts) just look like they have something special that JC will probably never have. I hope I'm wrong and he starts stepping it up even more and starts throwing some TDs (or find a coach that can call some plays that can actually help us score)

Remember Rogers has been in the same offense even when he did not play due to Brett Farve starting. JC had how many OC and offenses to learn?

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-06-2009, 11:31 PM

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Remember Rogers has been in the same offense even when he did not play due to Brett Farve starting. JC had how many OC and offenses to learn?

..and who did he have to learn from? He definitely didn't have Favre..lol.

Dirtbag59 · 10-07-2009, 01:39 AM

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..and who did he have to learn from? He definitely didn't have Favre..lol.

Farve and Rodgers is a poor mans Montana and Young. Ironically those two also seemed to have a limited relationship to this day.

DBUCHANON101 · 10-07-2009, 12:30 AM

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Remember Rogers has been in the same offense even when he did not play due to Brett Farve starting. JC had how many OC and offenses to learn?

Never fails. Orton,Cutler and how many other new QB's have changed not only offenses but TEAMS and are still doing well? Im sorry but This excuse is OLD.
JC isnt getting killed in the pocket and our wr's are better than some of these teams that are scoring more than us. Either its Zorn or its JC, id have to say both. IMO Zorn is in over his head and JC is still JC.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-07-2009, 01:42 AM

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Never fails. Orton,Cutler and how many other new QB's have changed not only offenses but TEAMS and are still doing well? Im sorry but This excuse is OLD.
JC isnt getting killed in the pocket and our wr's are better than some of these teams that are scoring more than us. Either its Zorn or its JC, id have to say both. IMO Zorn is in over his head and JC is still JC.

If I am not mistaken. Orton had been in one system. As well as Orton. Our WRs are better than Marshall (Do you know who he is?) Royal & Stokley. Are you really serious? Both of these players have been in the same system for a while until this year. He isn't getting killed but he is not getting the best protection either. The line is at best so-so. How is our running game doing? Guess the line is doing good run blocking also. Oh I forgot CP is so old he can't play anymore. Then you say Zorn is the problem. But that doesn't affect QB play. Wasn't he brought in to help JC. How many offenses has JC been in? Please tell me. This is only his second year in Zorns offense. Were we running WCO before? Please come again. Have you been drinking tonight?

DBUCHANON101 · 10-07-2009, 01:48 AM

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If I am not mistaken. Orton had been in one system. As well as Orton. Our WRs are better than Marshall (Do you know who he is?) Royal & Stokley. Are you really serious? Both of these players have been in the same system for a while until this year. He isn't getting killed but he is not getting the best protection either. The line is at best so-so. How is our running game doing? Guess the line is doing good run blocking also. Oh I forgot CP is so old he can't play anymore. Then you say Zorn is the problem. But that doesn't affect QB play. Wasn't he brought in to help JC. How many offenses has JC been in? Please tell me. This is only his second year in Zorns defense. Were we running WCO before? Please come again. Have you been drinking tonight?

Didnt know Zorn had a DEFENSE... please put down the bottle.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-07-2009, 01:55 AM

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Didnt know Zorn had a DEFENSE... please put down the bottle.

I meant offense. Your lack of common sense is rubbing off on me. I guess that's the only thing you can pick out of what I said. Its corrected but your idiotic statement remains. You said we have better weapons than Denver. LMFAO.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-07-2009, 02:04 AM

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Never fails. Orton,Cutler and how many other new QB's have changed not only offenses but TEAMS and are still doing well? Im sorry but This excuse is OLD.
JC isnt getting killed in the pocket and our wr's are better than some of these teams that are scoring more than us. Either its Zorn or its JC, id have to say both. IMO Zorn is in over his head and JC is still JC.

Writing is also fundamental. If you use Orton and Cutler as the QBs for your example that means you are including them in this discussion.

DBUCHANON101 · 10-07-2009, 02:16 AM

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Writing is also fundamental. If you use Orton and Cutler as the QBs for your example that means you are including them in this discussion.

NO i said QB's like those 2 have changed teams and offenses, THEN which means different scenerio i said teams with wrs worse than ours are scoring more. So dont try to backpedal now that you misread and put your foot in your mouth.

Chevy13 · 10-07-2009, 02:28 AM

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Writing is also fundamental. If you use Orton and Cutler as the QBs for your example that means you are including them in this discussion.

You might need someone to help you read these posts because I supposedly said many things that weren't there. There's no need to assume or try to read more into what someone is trying to say, just read what they said and respond to that not what you think they are trying to say. You should try to be one of those sports journalists they like to twist and take things out of context all the time...

sancho2613 · 10-07-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy13

You might need someone to help you read these posts because I supposedly said many things that weren't there. There's no need to assume or try to read more into what someone is trying to say, just read what they said and respond to that not what you think they are trying to say. You should try to be one of those sports journalists they like to twist and take things out of context all the time...

uh oh I hope he isn't going to say that Santana Moss sucks by what I just said.. oh dang now he's going to say I hate Cooley too....

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-07-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy13

You might need someone to help you read these posts because I supposedly said many things that weren't there. There's no need to assume or try to read more into what someone is trying to say, just read what they said and respond to that not what you think they are trying to say. You should try to be one of those sports journalists they like to twist and take things out of context all the time...

Dude my response was to DBUCHANON101 and you. Sorry I didn't specify. But a far as Joe Flacco. I was just saying he was set up to succeed and was brought in to a team with a good running game and great defense --these can beee a rookie QB's best friends. Not that he didn't have any talent. Did you say anything about Orton & Cutler? No you didn't. Maybe you need to read posts a little better. Twist that.

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