Kornheiser believes Skins would make run at Moss

FRPLG · 01-18-2005, 08:51 AM

This was discussed about a week ago and I was in favor of getting him. I have changed my mind. Although I don't think he is nearly the problem that most people think he is I do think he brings far too much baggage to the table. He is villified by every sportscaster and we really don't need the distraction.

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Originally Posted by Daseal

You really think with Fitz, Boldin, and 1-2 other 1st round WRs down in Arizona that they'll go after Moss? Hell, Marcel Shipp is a great back down there in Arizona. I'd be suprised if they gave up what's necessary for Moss.

I'd also be suprised not to see either Bennett, Smith, or both dealt for some defense.

You're crazy if you think Green wouldn't trade Bouldin and a DL for Moss. Bouldin wasn't drafted by Green I don't think. Now Fitz aint going no where but I think they'd trade for Moss in about half a second.

Also...have you seen Shipp??? First off he is somewhat injury prone and second off he definitly is not the answer. Shipp is not a feature back in this league while Bennett when healthy is a capable feature back.

SmootSmack · 01-17-2005, 06:26 PM

I'm not sure Green is totally sold on Shipp. And I've heard some rumors that he might go after Bennett.

As for Moss, I'm just guessing but Green's offense can never have too many receivers. The Cardinals have a lot of solid defensive linemen, something the Vikings could use.

But anyway, almost every player who is on the trading block or facing free agency you're sure to see some headline indicating the Redskins interest. Sometimes I think that agents plant these stories to drive up the value of their players "Oh you won't accept our offer well we'll just take it to Dan Snyder, he told us he's willing to pay X amount" And considering DS' track record, why wouldn't it seem believable even if it's not true

MTK · 01-17-2005, 06:27 PM

Tempting as it may be I wouldn't make the move for Moss if I were Snyder.

He's too much of a distraction on and off the field. Great talent, arguably the most talented WR to have played the game, but is he worth the headaches?

Bozzy · 01-17-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Tempting as it may be I wouldn't make the move for Moss if I were Snyder.

He's too much of a distraction on and off the field. Great talent, arguably the most talented WR to have played the game, but is he worth the headaches?

Yeah, we're better off with the no-namers. Especially on defense.

PSUskinsfan11 · 01-17-2005, 10:47 PM

I don't see Gibbs bringing in a guy like Moss considering the type of person he is. I like Moss but I don;t want him on our team and I can really see the Ravens trying to make a run at him. If they had a big time WR they would be right in the mix of things in the AFC. They could sign and trade Thomas and give the Vikings a first round pick plus maybe even get rid of McCallister since he had to be franchised to stick around last season. Then maybe they go after a solid CB in free agency like Rolle, Woodson, Bucannon, Woolfork, draft,ect. Just a theory but I would not be suprised if they did.

SmootSmack · 01-17-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUskinsfan11

I don't see Gibbs bringing in a guy like Moss considering the type of person he is. I like Moss but I don;t want him on our team and I can really see the Ravens trying to make a run at him. If they had a big time WR they would be right in the mix of things in the AFC. They could sign and trade Thomas and give the Vikings a first round pick plus maybe even get rid of McCallister since he had to be franchised to stick around last season. Then maybe they go after a solid CB in free agency like Rolle, Woodson, Bucannon, Woolfork, draft,ect. Just a theory but I would not be suprised if they did.

That's not a bad call. But I can see Moss getting upset with Kyle Boller really fast

Shane · 01-17-2005, 10:57 PM

Collecting talent doesnt make for a successful team.

Gibbs calls the shots now, not Snyder. Gibbs will not go for Moss. Moss is far too much of a self-centered person. No one Gibbs has been around compares to Moss in this way - because Gibbs doesn't let people like that on his teams. Dexter Manley and John Riggins were pussycats in comparison.

Team oriented spirit is what makes for team success. The approach of going after stars doesn't work.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-17-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

That's not a bad call. But I can see Moss getting upset with Kyle Boller really fast

Definitely...

I can see Randy bitch-slapping the sheyot out of Boller.

flyfischer · 01-17-2005, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I know a lot of you think we should probably trade Portis and Coles for him so we can start Betts and have a great reciever. Or even LaVar since they are a bad defensive team. I know most of you will shoot it down and say Gibbs likes the "character guys." Wilbon even said that himself, but Kornheiser pointed out that the Skins owner would have to be infatuated with him.

...who thinks that? Betts had one good game, he struggled last year when he had his chance. We can't trade our whole team, and why would we want to? If someone gets on here and says we need to trade Portis, LaVar, or Coles, that just shows how little they know about the game. Granted some backups stepped up this year, but trading LaVar...come on. Since when does one good year mean anything. Marshall is NOT better. Portis rushed for 1300 yards with a new system, and Coles was hurt. Give these guys a chance. Good grief. I'm glad no one on this site has no say in what really happens because we'd be 0-16 every year.

MTK · 01-17-2005, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by flyfischer

...who thinks that? Betts had one good game, he struggled last year when he had his chance. We can't trade our whole team, and why would we want to? If someone gets on here and says we need to trade Portis, LaVar, or Coles, that just shows how little they know about the game. Granted some backups stepped up this year, but trading LaVar...come on. Since when does one good year mean anything. Marshall is NOT better. Portis rushed for 1300 yards with a new system, and Coles was hurt. Give these guys a chance. Good grief. I'm glad no one on this site has no say in what really happens because we'd be 0-16 every year.

Believe it or not ideas like cutting/trading LaVar, Portis and Coles are brought up on a regular basis

jbcjr14 · 01-17-2005, 06:49 PM

Doesn't all this talk remind anyone of something that took place a few years ago?????? Deion friggin Sanders....the boards were so against it as was I and I am adamately against a trade for Randy Moss.

Just thought this would bring back some ugly memories.

flyfischer · 01-17-2005, 06:57 PM

yep...nothin like 10-6, a playoff win, and a promising offense, to over the hill superstars and an 8-8 season that began our slide into a laughing stock.

azskinsfan2 · 01-17-2005, 07:12 PM

If the Vikes said we could have Moss for free I wouldn't want him on this team!!! He is a total piece of crap!!! Great reciever?? Yes. when he wants to be!! He's the offensive version of Deion and we know what happened with Deion. Please, don't even think of bringing Moss to DC!!!

gibbsisgod · 01-17-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by azskinsfan2

If the Vikes said we could have Moss for free I wouldn't want him on this team!!! He is a total piece of crap!!! Great reciever?? Yes. when he wants to be!! He's the offensive version of Deion and we know what happened with Deion. Please, don't even think of bringing Moss to DC!!!

AMEN

SKINSnCANES · 01-17-2005, 07:34 PM

all the reporters always say that tice gives moss free reign to do what he wants. Allows the randy factor and all that other crap. Gibbs wouldnt tolerate any of that. We shouldnt give up much for him, but if they are looking to dump him how could you not like what it would do to our receiving corp. i dont care if he moons the cowboys everytime they play.

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01-17-2005, 06:26 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I'm not sure Green is totally sold on Shipp. And I've heard some rumors that he might go after Bennett. As for Moss, I'm just guessing but Green's offense can never have too many receivers. The Cardinals have a lot of solid defensive linemen, something the Vikings could use. But anyway, almost every player who is on the trading block or facing free agency you're sure to see some headline indicating the Redskins interest. Sometimes I think that agents plant these stories to drive up the value of their players "Oh you won't accept our offer well we'll just take it to Dan Snyder, he told us he's willing to pay X amount" And considering DS' track record, why wouldn't it seem believable even if it's not true __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-17-2005, 06:49 PM	#11
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 55 Posts: 2,015	Doesn't all this talk remind anyone of something that took place a few years ago?????? Deion friggin Sanders....the boards were so against it as was I and I am adamately against a trade for Randy Moss. Just thought this would bring back some ugly memories. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

01-17-2005, 07:12 PM	#13
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 68 Posts: 232	If the Vikes said we could have Moss for free I wouldn't want him on this team!!! He is a total piece of crap!!! Great reciever?? Yes. when he wants to be!! He's the offensive version of Deion and we know what happened with Deion. Please, don't even think of bringing Moss to DC!!! __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

01-17-2005, 07:34 PM	#15
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	all the reporters always say that tice gives moss free reign to do what he wants. Allows the randy factor and all that other crap. Gibbs wouldnt tolerate any of that. We shouldnt give up much for him, but if they are looking to dump him how could you not like what it would do to our receiving corp. i dont care if he moons the cowboys everytime they play. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

01-17-2005, 06:27 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Tempting as it may be I wouldn't make the move for Moss if I were Snyder. He's too much of a distraction on and off the field. Great talent, arguably the most talented WR to have played the game, but is he worth the headaches?

01-17-2005, 10:47 PM	#5
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	I don't see Gibbs bringing in a guy like Moss considering the type of person he is. I like Moss but I don;t want him on our team and I can really see the Ravens trying to make a run at him. If they had a big time WR they would be right in the mix of things in the AFC. They could sign and trade Thomas and give the Vikings a first round pick plus maybe even get rid of McCallister since he had to be franchised to stick around last season. Then maybe they go after a solid CB in free agency like Rolle, Woodson, Bucannon, Woolfork, draft,ect. Just a theory but I would not be suprised if they did.

01-17-2005, 10:57 PM	#7
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	Collecting talent doesnt make for a successful team. Gibbs calls the shots now, not Snyder. Gibbs will not go for Moss. Moss is far too much of a self-centered person. No one Gibbs has been around compares to Moss in this way - because Gibbs doesn't let people like that on his teams. Dexter Manley and John Riggins were pussycats in comparison. Team oriented spirit is what makes for team success. The approach of going after stars doesn't work.

01-17-2005, 06:57 PM	#12
flyfischer Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 47	yep...nothin like 10-6, a playoff win, and a promising offense, to over the hill superstars and an 8-8 season that began our slide into a laughing stock.

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