Sources: Gruden the front runner

[SBXVII]

Someone I work with said they were up late last night watching ESPN360 and it was mentioned by one of the announcers that their top level inside source at Redskins Park informed them that there is already a deal in place with Gruden to be the next HC along with Gruden having front office authority of some type. Supposedly Snyder is not happy and has not spoken to Vinny or Zorn in the last few days to a week. Rumor is Zorn will be cut and Vinny will be let go. Supposedly, again rumor, is Snyder didn't want Zorn as OC or HC and Cerrato talked Snyder into picking up Zorn as OC. Then no coach's wanted Zorn as their OC and they started backing out of the HCing hunt. Again it was Cerrato who swindled Snyder into believing Zorn would be a good HC so they named Zorn the HC.

I did not hear this so I am only passing along rumor's as of right now but if anyone else heard it perhaps you can clarify. I looked all over and can't find it being discussed anywhere.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Someone I work with said they were up late last night watching ESPN360 and it was mentioned by one of the announcers that their top level inside source at Redskins Park informed them that there is already a deal in place with Gruden to be the next HC along with Gruden having front office authority of some type. Supposedly Snyder is not happy and has not spoken to Vinny or Zorn in the last few days to a week. Rumor is Zorn will be cut and Vinny will be let go. Supposedly, again rumor, is Snyder didn't want Zorn as OC or HC and Cerrato talked Snyder into picking up Zorn as OC. Then no coach's wanted Zorn as their OC and they started backing out of the HCing hunt. Again it was Cerrato who swindled Snyder into believing Zorn would be a good HC so they named Zorn the HC.

I did not hear this so I am only passing along rumor's as of right now but if anyone else heard it perhaps you can clarify. I looked all over and can't find it being discussed anywhere.

Why would ESPN360 be talking about this? I'll go back and check if you can tell me what he was watching, but that doesn't seem to make sense. Maybe you meant ESPN980

Not to dispute what you've written about Gruden, my top level Gruden source (and it's a really good source) says nothing is in place with Gruden (although this same source says Bruce Allen and Snyder did speak earlier this week...but they always talk to each other)

Snyder let Cerrato choose the HC. And after alienating both Williams and Fassel, Cerrato suggested Zorn. So yeah that's on Cerrato...but I don't think Snyder will fire Vinny so much as give him a reduced role. He'll have say, just not final say.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why would ESPN360 be talking about this? I'll go back and check if you can tell me what he was watching, but that doesn't seem to make sense. Maybe you meant ESPN980

Not to dispute what you've written about Gruden, my top level Gruden source (and it's a really good source) says nothing is in place with Gruden (although this same source says Bruce Allen and Snyder did speak earlier this week...but they always talk to each other)

Snyder let Cerrato choose the HC. And after alienating both Williams and Fassel, Cerrato suggested Zorn. So yeah that's on Cerrato...but I don't think Snyder will fire Vinny so much as give him a reduced role. He'll have say, just not final say.

Aside from that, that report/rumor conflicts with Reports fron the WP that Snyder has been eating up alot of Zorn's time with meetings this week. I call BS on this rumor. I listen to ESPN980 every day and havent heard a thing about it. I think the dude just read some completely unsubstantiated speculation on extremeskins or some other ridiculous place and passed it on here.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Why would ESPN360 be talking about this? I'll go back and check if you can tell me what he was watching, but that doesn't seem to make sense. Maybe you meant ESPN980

Not to dispute what you've written about Gruden, my top level Gruden source (and it's a really good source) says nothing is in place with Gruden (although this same source says Bruce Allen and Snyder did speak earlier this week...but they always talk to each other)

Snyder let Cerrato choose the HC. And after alienating both Williams and Fassel, Cerrato suggested Zorn. So yeah that's on Cerrato...but I don't think Snyder will fire Vinny so much as give him a reduced role. He'll have say, just not final say.

I checked with my man again and he said he heard it while watching "Washington Post live." If that helps at all.

Again it could all be rumor's and we all know how someone starts it and it will bounce between fans and media for weeks. I was just wondering if anyone else heard this or to clarify exactly what was said.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I checked with my man again and he said he heard it while watching "Washington Post live." If that helps at all.

Again it could all be rumor's and we all know how someone starts it and it will bounce between fans and media for weeks. I was just wondering if anyone else heard this or to clarify exactly what was said.

Ok well then that would have been CSN (Comcast SportsNet) Washington where he saw it, not ESPN

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ok well then that would have been CSN (Comcast SportsNet) Washington where he saw it, not ESPN

Yeah, I'm checking with their video's now. I'm really wondering if the first statement made about Gruden being front runner is now bouncing around from media to fans and the media picking back up on it and we get this. Thats why I was asking if anyone else saw or heard it even though it would have been better had I got the right show. sorry.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I checked with my man again and he said he heard it while watching "Washington Post live." If that helps at all.

Again it could all be rumor's and we all know how someone starts it and it will bounce between fans and media for weeks. I was just wondering if anyone else heard this or to clarify exactly what was said.

If it was on WaPo Live (which it wasn't cause I watch it) then it would be plastered all over the Post's website as well.

Interesting thought on Gruden's potentially landing here. Wouldn't it be interesting if Snyder hires Allen during the season who then hires Gruden (after interviewing Gray for Rooney consideration) before the end of the season for 2010. Would teams/coaches still be as open and accommodating to Gruden when he comes in for MNF prep?

I'm pretty sure there is a precedent for former coaches to be hired out of the booth for the following season but remaining in the booth for the remainder of the year.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I checked with my man again and he said he heard it while watching "Washington Post live." If that helps at all.

Again it could all be rumor's and we all know how someone starts it and it will bounce between fans and media for weeks. I was just wondering if anyone else heard this or to clarify exactly what was said.

Not ESPN reporting...now I give it a little more credibility.

That scenario would be incredible.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Someone I work with said they were up late last night watching ESPN360 and it was mentioned by one of the announcers that their top level inside source at Redskins Park informed them that there is already a deal in place with Gruden to be the next HC along with Gruden having front office authority of some type. Supposedly Snyder is not happy and has not spoken to Vinny or Zorn in the last few days to a week. Rumor is Zorn will be cut and Vinny will be let go. Supposedly, again rumor, is Snyder didn't want Zorn as OC or HC and Cerrato talked Snyder into picking up Zorn as OC. Then no coach's wanted Zorn as their OC and they started backing out of the HCing hunt. Again it was Cerrato who swindled Snyder into believing Zorn would be a good HC so they named Zorn the HC.

I did not hear this so I am only passing along rumor's as of right now but if anyone else heard it perhaps you can clarify. I looked all over and can't find it being discussed anywhere.

If this is true then why not clip Vinny and bring in someone new to pick personel and head coach?? Bringing in Gruden doesn't solve anything. Also the buck stops w/ the owner and he should know not to let a man run his team that suggests hiring a man w/no OC/HC experience. He needs to fire Vinny FIRST then go from there.